Hillary Vs Obama Thread: CNN 8pm

Donkey® · 01-31-2008, 06:52 PM

I wish the Republicans would narrow it down to one on one format as well.

JaJae · 01-31-2008, 06:57 PM

My prediction: It's gonna be no holds barred. It's gonna get ugly tonight. I have a feeling Obama is gonna criticize Hillary and her husband's recent behavior. As far as behavior goes, he comes out on top. He needs to win over her voters and his ideology isn't gonna do it for him. He's gonna hit her where it counts.. in the ethics. He's gonna make her out to be the status quo, dirty politician that we've seen Bill make her out to be constantly throughout the past few weeks. She doesn't take to criticism too well. She goes on the vicious attack. It'll be interesting to see if she can keep her composure and if Obama can stop himself from going too far and looking like the bad one.

Donkey® · 01-31-2008, 07:00 PM

Obama has never made attacks. Never. Please try to wait until the debate to spew your hate.

See what I did there?

JaJae · 01-31-2008, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Obama has never made attacks. Never. Please try to wait until the debate to spew your hate.

See what I did there?

Obama is far superior to Hillary on the dirty politician meter... by far. There's really no comparison. I think he'll play that angle tonight as well as the McCain > Hillary and I > McCain so vote me for me.

Scrum · 01-31-2008, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

He's gonna hit her where it counts.. in the ethics.

This is where she doesn't have a leg to stand on.

It also helps that he has done a good job of of running a clean campaign. It make her look even worse, at least to me.

JaJae · 01-31-2008, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by Scrum

This is where she doesn't have a leg to stand on.

It also helps that he has done a good job of of running a clean campaign. It make her look even worse, at least to me.

I really think this is where it's going to come down to. Hillary is going to play the inexperienced card. And how she feels she's best capable and "ready" to lead and get results. Obama is gonna have to defend himself from that and nudge in the ethics card at every angle. I have a feeling it's gonna get real dirty tonight.

Donkey® · 01-31-2008, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by Scrum

This is where she doesn't have a leg to stand on.

It also helps that he has done a good job of of running a clean campaign. It make her look even worse, at least to me.

I am sure you can find politicians in the past 50 years that haven't been dirty. Maybe. That's the world of politics as we know it. To me it shows Hillary can be as ruthless as the men when it comes to that. She saw it during the first campaign she ran with her husband...and she's playing the game correctly.

JaJae · 01-31-2008, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

I am sure you can find politicians in the past 50 years that haven't been dirty. Maybe. That's the world of politics as we know it. To me it shows Hillary can be as ruthless as the men when it comes to that. She saw it during the first campaign she ran with her husband...and she's playing the game correctly.

Hillary is exceptionally dirty and tainted though compared to the other people who were running on both sides of the aisle. That's going to come out during her campaign.

Donkey® · 01-31-2008, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Hillary is exceptionally dirty and tainted though compared to the other people who were running on both sides of the aisle. That's going to come out during her campaign.

Bullshit. Every single election there are dirty moves by everyone. She gets the ire of people like you because you hate her. Show me shit she has done and there are people in this very election that have done the same shit.

JaJae · 01-31-2008, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Bullshit. Every single election there are dirty moves by everyone. She gets the ire of people like you because you hate her. Show me shit she has done and there are people in this very election that have done the same shit.

Not just the crap she and her husband have pulled for this campaign. Her entire political history is tainted. Obama has a lot of material.

Donkey® · 01-31-2008, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Not just the crap she and her husband have pulled for this campaign. Her entire political history is tainted. Obama has a lot of material.

When you are actually important to the world and not some obscure politician out of the limelight, then there will be more material out there that others have an issue with.

JaJae · 01-31-2008, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

When you are actually important to the world and not some obscure politician out of the limelight, then there will be more material out there that others have an issue with.

Only if you're crooked. The material is there because she DID them. They're not just the accusations and predictions they're piling on Obama. When it comes to ethics, Obama comes out far ahead and Hillary comes out stinking like a skunk. That's just the reality of it. She's a dirty politician. That's fine if you agree with her views, but that is the reality of the situation. And compared to Obama who has a short and clean record she comes out looking far worse.

Donkey® · 01-31-2008, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Only if you're crooked. The material is there because she DID them. Not just the accusations and predictions they're piling on Obama.

Right...like I said, post up what you feel she's done. No accusations and predictions there.

JaJae · 01-31-2008, 07:33 PM

This is a fairly condensed list. But it's a start if you would like to get informed on some of the Hillary's corruption and crookedness.

Hillary Rodham Clinton - Corruptapedia

Donkey® · 01-31-2008, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

This is a fairly condensed list. But it's a start if you would like to get informed on some of the Hillary's corruption and crookedness.

Hillary Rodham Clinton - Corruptapedia

And you do realize there are two sides to every one of those stories, right?

Donkey® · 01-31-2008, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

This is a fairly condensed list. But it's a start if you would like to get informed on some of the Hillary's corruption and crookedness.

Hillary Rodham Clinton - Corruptapedia

BTW, you don't find it funny that everyone else's entry is empty? Wow.

Scrum · 01-31-2008, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

BTW, you don't find it funny that everyone else's entry is empty? Wow.

Ted Stevens - Corruptapedia

Donkey® · 01-31-2008, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by Scrum

Ted Stevens - Corruptapedia

I was talking about on the Presidential Candidates page.

DosEquis · 01-31-2008, 08:05 PM

he needs to walk a fine line between attacking, while staying focused on the issue and what he would do regarding the issue.

hopefully she will go over board and people will continue to wonder where she stands on issues.

Donkey® · 01-31-2008, 08:06 PM

Obama pandering to Edwards? Check.