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Old 02-08-2008, 02:37 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
I liked Howard Dean in 2004, he was more liberal, that doesn't mean I'd vote for him...

It's not just about ideology and policy positions, it's also about who can be elected, and what would they actually do in office

I really see a Obama as a big gamble for the general election, like Howard Dean, and we don't need that

Also, even if he got elected, i really see him twiddling his thumbs as we're still suffering from the recession, and his "bipartisan" vague ideas never get turned into an actual bill, or the ones that do get blocked in the Senate

After 4 years he's seen as a do-nothing president who is tossed out
On the contrary I would definitely argue that Hillary is by far a larger political liability, as far as the 4 years and out.
 
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Old 02-08-2008, 03:57 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by DosEquis View Post
On the contrary I would definitely argue that Hillary is by far a larger political liability, as far as the 4 years and out.
well, agree to disagree

I'll be knocking on doors for Obama if he wins the nomination...with energy
 
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Old 02-08-2008, 05:35 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by DosEquis View Post
Obama almost got sacked and just threw the ball up for grabs...and by some miracle his reciever caught it... created a major shift in momentum for the game. If hillary is to win she is going to have to play the rest of the game out perfect. If she has a DB slip just a tiny bit and let Plaxico get open in the endzone, she is going to lose this game.

But her game is not perfect. Her entire game relies on bad calls by preferential Refs. She does have them! But can they get away with it while so many cameras are rolling?
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