so ballz called me yesterday....

[Linzyhop]

I texted him asking if he's finally gonna throw his support behind McCain now that Romney is out. He was a Thompson supporter as most of you know, and considering that Thompson gave his support to McCain after he dropped out, you would think Ballz would agree. but no. he answered me that he's going to vote for Obama and asked if i wanted to know why.

I told him to fuck off and no reason was a good reason.

so last night he called to tell me why.

I still don't understand his visibly flawed logic: he wants a liberal in office, so they can fuck it up even more and then they can't complain its fucked up even more because another republican was in office, not it's their fault this time.

um. yeaaaaaah. and he calls himself conservative! (and i said that)... not a valid reason me thinks. you vote! valid, yea or nay....

and that's my rant.

[7960]

linzyhop = ballz-by-proxy

?

[Linzyhop]

Originally Posted by 7960

linzyhop = ballz-by-proxy

?

are you saying i have ballz?


and i'm not a conservative. i'm independent with a liberal tendency, but I don't like either of the choices running now but i do like McCain.

[WickedLou9]

ballz has gone crazy.

[David Octavius]

Ballz obviously listens to talk radio too much and seems to care more about protecting his precious party and ideology than he is about our great nation

Ballz's reason =

[Scrum]

And people accuse liberals of wanting this country to fail.

[7960]

I'm not saying obama would fuck up the country, but he believes obama would fuck up the country. So he wants obama to get elected so he can fuck up the country just so conservatives can say "told ya so!"

That's pretty fucking stupid right there folks.

[Linzyhop]

Originally Posted by 7960

I'm not saying obama would fuck up the country, but he believes obama would fuck up the country. So he wants obama to get elected so he can fuck up the country just so conservatives can say "told ya so!"

That's pretty fucking stupid right there folks.

that's what i told him!

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

that's what i told him!

We both know come november he'll calm down...he won't vote Obama
(Not that it matters, MA is a blue state no matter what happens)

Whether he votes for Obama or you vote for McCain is completely irrelevant to the election

That being said, he's admitted multiple times he knew nothing about politics and only picked up a few conservative facts from trolling OT, and he hasn't had time since to really look up politics...he really knows little to nothing about politics so I wouldn't worry myself with his outlook

[Publius]

thorgrim, ballz lives in Tennessee now I believe.

[DosEquis]

Tell him to quit blaming america first and to stop the hate.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Publius

thorgrim, ballz lives in Tennessee now I believe.

Same deal...if Obama/Hillary is winning Tennessee, then they've won Ohio and the EC

[Linzyhop]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Same deal...if Obama/Hillary is winning Tennessee, then they've won Ohio and the EC

yeahhh... um. last i checked, TN was a red state.

[7960]

Originally Posted by Publius

thorgrim, ballz lives in Tennessee now I believe.

maybe not for long

resolution in Georgia's legislature proposes to move the
Tennessee-Georgia boundary about a mile to the north

[thewise1]

I don't blame him. McCain isn't a conservative

[Thorgrim]

so thewise1

if the exit polls come in, and 99% of the votes are for the two candidates...this isn't about who you'd vote for, and you already know a 3rd candidate didn't get any signficant votes...but who are you going to prefer wins as the returns come in...?

[thewise1]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

so thewise1

if the exit polls come in, and 99% of the votes are for the two candidates...this isn't about who you'd vote for, and you already know a 3rd candidate didn't get any signficant votes...but who are you going to prefer wins as the returns come in...?

If I understand you correctly, you're not asking who I'll vote for but just who I'd rather have win, right?

If so, neither really jumps out at me. McCain will be less likely to move farther toward the kind of state I fear in some ways (tax policy, social programs, gun control), but Obama will *probably* be less likely to implement more DHS bullcrap that spies on citizens or infringes that set of rights.

So as you can see I'm in a bit of a crappy situation - whoever wins, I lose.

I wish I could tell you but the way I see it it's kind of a toss up, very hard to care at all at this point :\

[Thorgrim]

I'm always confused why libertarian leaners are more afraid of POSSIBLY paying more taxes, and more social programs than they are of national security hawks with their data mining, domestic spying, the right to a trial, et al

I mean, you look at 1984, and then you look at Sweden

Just looking at Sweden honestly scares you more than reading 1984?

[Publius]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I'm always confused why libertarian leaners are more afraid of POSSIBLY paying more taxes, and more social programs than they are of national security hawks with their data mining, domestic spying, the right to a trial, et al

I mean, you look at 1984, and then you look at Sweden

Just looking at Sweden honestly scares you more than reading 1984?

Mostly because in a lot of cases the Democrats also support, at least to some extent, those programs endorsed by the "national security hawks."

[Publius]

That and for many libertarians the Milton Friedman school of thought is very much their viewpoint: economic freedom breeds political freedom; if you take away economic freedom, political freedom isn't far behind.