True Conservatives: How Are You Voting? - Page 2

KatKanPlay · 09-09-2006, 11:19 AM

What is a "True Conservative"? I understand the literal meaning, but no longer see a correlation in the political sense as equated to the Republican party.

thomez · 09-09-2006, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by KatKanPlay

What is a "True Conservative"? I understand the literal meaning, but no longer see a correlation in the political sense as equated to the Republican party.

Small, limited federal govt
States Rights
Lower taxes
Fiscal Responsibility
Strong Defense

ballz2wallz · 09-09-2006, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by thomez

You aren't a true conservative anyway, .

you have no idea what you're talking about

thomez · 09-09-2006, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

you have no idea what you're talking about

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plz let some "other" conservatives reply now rather than derailing yet another thread on a semantics arguement

lew · 09-09-2006, 12:28 PM

I don't think I'll be voting.

I'm not voting for any Democrat candidates. Not impressed with any Republicans. And I don't know of any third-parties running.

thomez · 09-09-2006, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by lew

I don't think I'll be voting.

I'm not voting for any Democrat candidates. Not impressed with any Republicans. And I don't know of any third-parties running.

that makes me sad

have conservative values EVER been represented in such a poor fashion for the past 200 years?

JaJae · 09-09-2006, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by thomez

that makes me sad

have conservative values EVER been represented in such a poor fashion for the past 200 years?

I don't think Democratic values have ever been represented in such a poor fashion either... it's just they're willing to go along with it because there's no third party popping up for them to switch over to.

Republicans are not holding on to their core values and they're losing members.

Democrats are not holding on to their core values either. It's funny, when the GOP does something against their beleifs and what would have been a Democratic ideal, they're scrutinized by the Democrats. You'd think the Dems would love the current administration with their big government, spending etc. I guess they only like that stuff when they get to do it themselves.

In either case, both parties are messed up. Republicans more so, but it's strange to see how many people are disgruntled with the Republican party in comparison to the Democratic party.

I myself consider myself an old school Democrat with fiscal and personal responsibility thrown in. The current Democratic party is just as much of a joke to me as the current Republican party. The Dems threw me away long before the GOP abandoned its base. The Democrats have gotten far too extreme. It's almost as if they'll be a socialist party within the next decade.

thomez · 09-09-2006, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Democrats are not holding on to their core values either. It's funny, when the GOP does something against their beleifs and what would have been a Democratic ideal, they're scrutinized by the Democrats. You'd think the Dems would love the current administration with their big government, spending etc. I guess they only like that stuff when they get to do it themselves.

I think there are 2 types of big spenders - those that want it for defense (or even offense aka neo-con), and those that want it for a big govt welfare state (like most of modern Europe)

the Bush admin has been mostly the first kind, but have been unable to significantly curb domestic spending, and have even increased it in some cases, like the prescription drug bill

and I agree with you, the Democratic party is in bad shape too

if there was ever a big niche for a 3rd party to fill, this is the time

Scrum · 09-09-2006, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Democrats are not holding on to their core values either. It's funny, when the GOP does something against their beleifs and what would have been a Democratic ideal, they're scrutinized by the Democrats. You'd think the Dems would love the current administration with their big government, spending etc. I guess they only like that stuff when they get to do it themselves.

I find it sad that there are people out there with views like this.
"well democrats like to spend money, they must love all the money we are spending to bomb brown people".

Please. Seeing your views on this forum I don't see how you ever thought you were a democrat.

"Democrat with fiscal and personal responsibility thrown in"

Get in line. There are tons of us who can say that. Just because the only democrats you recognize are the nutjob extremists, doesn't make them all that way. There are plenty of good ones out there that just don't get any press on FNN which is where you seem to parrot your talking points from.

motivez · 09-09-2006, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

t's apparent you don't care about principles either

I do, which is why I'm voting for an opposition party. Hopefully that'll lead to balance in Washington

motivez · 09-09-2006, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

i don't believe we've lost the balance.

Yeah. Lets see. Republican President. Republican Senate. Republican House.

I can see where you got the idea that we still have balance somehow.

motivez · 09-09-2006, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

I would go for the Fair Tax system.

Are you talking about Flat Tax? I have seen many conservatives state that Fair Tax will only work if it has exceptions and different 'brackets' to how fair it is..

motivez · 09-09-2006, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Democrats are not holding on to their core values either. It's funny, when the GOP does something against their beleifs and what would have been a Democratic ideal, they're scrutinized by the Democrats. You'd think the Dems would love the current administration with their big government, spending etc. I guess they only like that stuff when they get to do it themselves.

Well, maybe because this GOP style "big government" is all about helping the wealthy, rather than trying to do right by the majority of American people.

Scrum · 09-09-2006, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

Are you talking about Flat Tax? I have seen many conservatives state that Fair Tax will only work if it has exceptions and different 'brackets' to how fair it is..

The fair tax system just used a 20-something percent federal sales tax I thought and had no loopholes?

I like flat tax as well.

Scrum · 09-09-2006, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

Well, maybe because this GOP style "big government" is all about helping the wealthy, rather than trying to do right by the majority of American people.

I dropped an Ice Cream truck on your house.

What's the matter? I thought you liked Ice Cream?

KatKanPlay · 09-09-2006, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

I dropped an Ice Cream truck on your house.

What's the matter? I thought you liked Ice Cream?

Your truck was full of vanilla and I dont like vanilla.

thomez · 09-09-2006, 02:25 PM

Dear liberals,

please let the conservatives answer the question without irritation or insult

thanks
your lovely thomez

6SpeedTA95 · 09-09-2006, 02:29 PM

Democrat for the house

6SpeedTA95 · 09-09-2006, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

Are you talking about Flat Tax? I have seen many conservatives state that Fair Tax will only work if it has exceptions and different 'brackets' to how fair it is..

Fair tax is a joke, a national sales tax is

motivez · 09-09-2006, 02:36 PM

I meant "flat tax" in that second part, assuming he was talking about the same thing