Well THAT was interesting v. justheardKarlRovespeakatpenn

A_C_E · 02-20-2008, 09:52 PM

He was actually kind of endearing, at least in the beginning when it was just him and the moderator speaking. He toned down the fearmongering "us against the enemy" shit for most of it, until the Q&A started

The first moron who ran up to ask him a question said "I think you are a cancer on this nation, and your fearmongering and fascist tactics have so violated our civil liberties that I think you should be impeached

"

To which Rove responded: "Do you feel better about yourself now?"

Rove 1, idiot kid 0

kinggovernor · 02-20-2008, 09:55 PM

you can impeach former advisors

motivez · 02-20-2008, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

you can impeach former advisors

My thoughts exactly

A_C_E · 02-20-2008, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

you can impeach former advisors

:roflw:

Honestly, I was happy with the choice. I like bringing controversial political figures to campus; it gives an air of respectability to the speaker series, and, honestly, it's fun watching people get all riled up.

That said, allowing an open Q&A for a half hour at the end was just stupid. It was nothing but the same old daggers being thrown at him, and the same old responses. I didn't want to hear about why we went into Iraq and why the President can wiretap foreign communications. I wanted to hear things like, say, "Mr. Rove, I think it's fair to say that the so-called "Gingrich coalition" of socially-minded conservatives, fiscally-minded conservatives, and the religious right has become increasingly fractured as the Republican party's base in this election cycle. Do you think that these groups are finally separating as a functional body, and, if so,how would you re-unite them in time to win the White House in November?

Which is exactly what I had planned to ask had I run to the microphone in time....only got through two of the five people in front of me

edit:

....no :roflw: smiley? What is this garbage?

motivez · 02-20-2008, 10:26 PM

You mean

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kinggovernor · 02-20-2008, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by A_C_E

:roflw:

Honestly, I was happy with the choice. I like bringing controversial political figures to campus; it gives an air of respectability to the speaker series, and, honestly, it's fun watching people get all riled up.

That said, allowing an open Q&A for a half hour at the end was just stupid. It was nothing but the same old daggers being thrown at him, and the same old responses. I didn't want to hear about why we went into Iraq and why the President can wiretap foreign communications. I wanted to hear things like, say, "Mr. Rove, I think it's fair to say that the so-called "Gingrich coalition" of socially-minded conservatives, fiscally-minded conservatives, and the religious right has become increasingly fractured as the Republican party's base in this election cycle. Do you think that these groups are finally separating as a functional body, and, if so,how would you re-unite them in time to win the White House in November?

Which is exactly what I had planned to ask had I run to the microphone in time....only got through two of the five people in front of me

edit: ....no :roflw: smiley? What is this garbage?

that would have been a much better question to ask, because that is what he specializes in

WickedLou9 · 02-21-2008, 09:29 AM

Did you smell sulfer in the air after he left?

Stylerod · 02-21-2008, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by WickedLou9

Did you smell sulfer in the air after he left?

Phantom · 02-21-2008, 10:09 AM

I would like to hear Rove speak. Although I don't agree with him most of the time, he's clearly a very intelligent guy and has had an inside view of nearly everything that has gone on in the past few years at the white house.

It's a shame people will come and waste everyone's time with stupid questions.

WickedLou9 · 02-21-2008, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by Phantom

I would like to hear Rove speak. Although I don't agree with him most of the time, he's clearly a very intelligent guy and has had an inside view of nearly everything that has gone on in the past few years at the white house.

It's a shame people will come and waste everyone's time with stupid questions.

He's an evil genius.

Well I dunno actually. His policy worked extremly well in the short term, but ultimately lead to a backlash that resulted in the GOP losing control of both houses of congress and probably the white house as well.
He used wedge issues like gay marriage to divide the country and mobilize his base. They then framed the foreign policy as an us vs them sort of scenerio, scared everyone with spectors of terrorist attacks and used it to rally people behind the flag, calling anyone who disagreed a commie liberal who hates america. It worked really well for a while but eventually people started getting sick of it. They got sick of the wedge issues that don't REALLY matter. They got sick of the fear mongering and eventually rejected what the GOP was selling.

Phantom · 02-21-2008, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by WickedLou9

He's an evil genius

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Him and Cheney.

Watching Cheney debate a few years ago was an awesome experience. It was a combination of watching the bad guy from a cartoon mixed with a ridiculous depth of knowledge and ability to convey that knowledge. If Cheney were raised as a more altruistic individual, he could surely have been one of the greatest leaders this country has ever known.

WickedLou9 · 02-21-2008, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by Phantom

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Him and Cheney.

Watching Cheney debate a few years ago was an awesome experience. It was a combination of watching the bad guy from a cartoon mixed with a ridiculous depth of knowledge and ability to convey that knowledge. If Cheney were raised as a more altruistic individual, he could surely have been one of the greatest leaders this country has ever known.

The problem with Cheney was that he would lie through his teeeth and sound convincing doing it. In a debate with John Edwards 4 years ago they were agruing about the cost of the Iraq war. Edwards was right on with his numbers but Cheney rebutted him convincingly vastly understating the true cost of the war. But it just sounded so convincing when he said it.

Phantom · 02-21-2008, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by WickedLou9

The problem with Cheney was that he would lie through his teeeth and sound convincing doing it. In a debate with John Edwards 4 years ago they were agruing about the cost of the Iraq war. Edwards was right on with his numbers but Cheney rebutted him convincingly vastly understating the true cost of the war. But it just sounded so convincing when he said it.

Exactly. Imagine how much more convincing he could be with the truth on his side and altruistic motives

Stylerod · 02-21-2008, 10:48 AM

I always wished Cheney would have been president instead of Bush

A_C_E · 02-21-2008, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

I always wished Cheney would have been president instead of Bush

That's an incredibly frightening thought

Stylerod · 02-21-2008, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by A_C_E

That's an incredibly frightening thought

Not really.

SoFlaJDM · 02-21-2008, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Not really.

considering he has an even lower approval rating than bush, i'd say the vast majority of america disagrees with you

Stylerod · 02-21-2008, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM

considering he has an even lower approval rating than bush, i'd say the vast majority of america disagrees with you

That's ok. I think if he was president that would be different. I just think he would have made a better president than Bush.

Roonie · 02-21-2008, 06:43 PM

He would have been a much worse president. That and he would have been permanently attached to a car battery to jump start his heart everytime he has a heart attack.

RMNIXON · 02-21-2008, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by A_C_E

He was actually kind of endearing, at least in the beginning when it was just him and the moderator speaking. He toned down the fearmongering "us against the enemy" shit for most of it, until the Q&A started

The first moron who ran up to ask him a question said "I think you are a cancer on this nation, and your fearmongering and fascist tactics have so violated our civil liberties that I think you should be impeached "

To which Rove responded: "Do you feel better about yourself now?"

Rove 1, idiot kid 0