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Old 03-03-2008, 12:57 AM   #1
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Hillary's Experience As First Lady MATTERS

Why? Because she didn't just sit around doing nothing, she was ACTIVE in political and administrative fields. There's no doubt that she's learned a A LOT from eight years of that. She also demonstrates her energy, productivity and big heart. She is a proven leader.

Some highlights:

--Hillary Clinton was the only First Lady to keep an office in the West Wing


--The First Lady was also one of the few international figures at the time who spoke out against the treatment of Afghani women by Islamist fundamentalist Taliban that had seized control of Afghanistan

--One of the programs she helped create was Vital Voices, a U.S.-sponsored initiative to promote the participation of international women in their nation's political process. One result of the group's meetings, in Northern Ireland , was drawing together women leaders of various political factions that supported the Good Friday peace agreement that brought peace to that nation long at civil war.

Read more about her biography as first lady at

http://www.firstladies.org/biographies/firstladies.aspx?biography=43
 
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Old 03-03-2008, 01:18 AM   #2
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hillary's a douche.

she tried to shove universal healthcare down the throats of people who didn't want it...she failed (thank god).

she's lying about her "lifetime of giving" when she says she helped low income people for "years and years"...she did that work part-time for 6 months.

she lied about not knowing her brother was selling pardons.

she gave some awards, named some buildings, and had luncheons with rich people to get their money. her "experience" is crap...she has no more than the other unqualified democrat candidate.
 
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Old 03-03-2008, 08:18 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by Danneus View Post
Why? Because she didn't just sit around doing nothing, she was ACTIVE in political and administrative fields. There's no doubt that she's learned a A LOT from eight years of that. She also demonstrates her energy, productivity and big heart. She is a proven leader.

Some highlights:

--Hillary Clinton was the only First Lady to keep an office in the West Wing


--The First Lady was also one of the few international figures at the time who spoke out against the treatment of Afghani women by Islamist fundamentalist Taliban that had seized control of Afghanistan

--One of the programs she helped create was Vital Voices, a U.S.-sponsored initiative to promote the participation of international women in their nation's political process. One result of the group's meetings, in Northern Ireland , was drawing together women leaders of various political factions that supported the Good Friday peace agreement that brought peace to that nation long at civil war.

Read more about her biography as first lady at

http://www.firstladies.org/biographies/firstladies.aspx?biography=43
Wait. The first thing on your list of Hillary's experience is she had an office in the West Wing? Sometimes I think you are a very clever anti-Hillary supporter and you make these threads just to show how inept she really is.
 
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Old 03-03-2008, 10:22 AM   #4
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If her experience as first lady matters then so do the papers she's had stalled from being released. And in the same token Laura Bush rivals her for qualifications to run the White House.
 
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Old 03-03-2008, 10:24 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
If her experience as first lady matters then so do the papers she's had stalled from being released. And in the same token Laura Bush rivals her for qualifications to run the White House.
By the logic used in this thread, Eleanor Roosevelt should've run for President after FDR died based solely on her experience as First Lady, 12 years of which made her more qualified than any other candidate for President.
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Old 03-03-2008, 01:17 PM   #6
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Are you suggesting she wouldn't have been up to the task?

She was an amazing women, who was a trailblazer in a great many areas.. the idea that her 12 years wouldn't have bestowed upon her any relevant experience seems a little inane to me.
 
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Old 03-03-2008, 01:26 PM   #7
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Are you suggesting she wouldn't have been up to the task?

She was an amazing women, who was a trailblazer in a great many areas.. the idea that her 12 years wouldn't have bestowed upon her any relevant experience seems a little inane to me.
Not at all, but if you look at everything she did during that 12 years it amounts to a HELL OF A LOT MORE than what Hillary did during her 8 years in the White House. The logic suggested by this thread is that just by virtue of being present in the White House as First Lady, she is competent and prepared for the Presidency.

If Eleanor Roosevelt had sat around and done nothing during her 12 years as First Lady she'd still have been more qualified for the Presidency than any modern President would after 2 terms, based on the logic in this thread.

Simple presence in the White House does not leadership experience make.
 
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Old 03-03-2008, 11:23 PM   #8
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Wait. The first thing on your list of Hillary's experience is she had an office in the West Wing?
Actually, I wasn't listing her accomplishments in any particular order.
 
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Old 03-03-2008, 11:26 PM   #9
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Not at all, but if you look at everything she did during that 12 years it amounts to a HELL OF A LOT MORE than what Hillary did during her 8 years in the White House. The logic suggested by this thread is that just by virtue of being present in the White House as First Lady, she is competent and prepared for the Presidency.

If Eleanor Roosevelt had sat around and done nothing during her 12 years as First Lady she'd still have been more qualified for the Presidency than any modern President would after 2 terms, based on the logic in this thread.
What? I didn't say that being a first spouse and sitting around the white house doing nothing qualifies someone to be president.
 
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Old 03-03-2008, 11:31 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Danneus View Post
What? I didn't say that being a first spouse and sitting around the white house doing nothing qualifies someone to be president.
but at the top of your list of things that qualify her is "had an office in the west wing"

 
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Old 03-04-2008, 02:40 AM   #11
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*shrugs* Proximity to the oval office matters, IMO.
 
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Old 03-04-2008, 07:24 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by Danneus View Post
*shrugs* Proximity to the oval office matters, IMO.
you've been watching too much West Wing.......it matters if you're a staffer, not the president's wife
 
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:24 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by Danneus View Post
*shrugs* Proximity to the oval office matters, IMO.
That certainly helped her police Bill's sexual escapades.

I'm sorry but I find it hard to believe that a woman who was seemingly unaware of her husband getting blown by an intern in the oval office was at the same time able to glean relevant presidential experience via simple proximity.
 
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Old 03-04-2008, 06:46 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
If her experience as first lady matters then so do the papers she's had stalled from being released. And in the same token Laura Bush rivals her for qualifications to run the White House.

Like the files her Chief of Staff and now Campaign Staff Maggie Williams removed from Vince Fosters Office before the authorities could seal it? Not to mention the billing records that showed up rather unexpectedly in her West Wing? Not to mention the political firing of the Travel Office Staff to move in her Arkansaw friends. Then to cover up the motive when caught she tried to smear the fired employees.

Lots of experiance, it is true!
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Old 03-04-2008, 06:49 PM   #15
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but at the top of your list of things that qualify her is "had an office in the west wing"


Does that make this guy qualified?

 
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Old 03-04-2008, 07:01 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post

Lots of experiance, it is true!
You forgot all the women she knew Bill was sexually accosting and her slandering of them to the media. There was also Whitewater, she was the first First Lady to ever get throw in front of a Federal Grand jury and by most accounts lied to cover her ass. The list goes on as to what her real experience in the White House was. She definitely learned how to be a crooked Washington politician, but presidentially qualified her "experience" did not make.
 
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Old 03-05-2008, 10:42 AM   #17
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After last night, Obama has said he is going to attack Hillary on her experience. Up until this point he has allowed Hillary to say whatever she wanted about herself without challenging it. I guess he figured he was making ground in the polls and didn't want to change strategy against her and risk being viewed as going negative. But now it appears he's willing to take the gloves off.

Hillary keeps claiming experience in the White House. When she was in the White House she wanted us all to believe she was just the First Lady and had absolutely no idea what was going on in the Oval Office. Now she's using that time as experience. She spent more time and gained more experience in slandering women accusing her husband of sexual harassment, save for healthcare. And her healthcare experience is nothing short of a complete disaster. There is absolutely nothing positive to say about her experience in handling health care. Obama doesn't call her on this, but when the media does her campaign claims she's learned her lesson.

She hasn't. She keeps saying she's a fighter, and she'll go to the White House and take it to the Republicans no hold barred. She is advocating the same mentality that screwed her over 15 years ago.

Because of her conduct, her scandals and lack of integrity, half the country dislikes her. That is going to be huge in national election against someone like McCain. The Democrats seriously need to get their act together on their candidates they send to national elections. The Republicans have been sending people who appeal to moderates and even liberals which plays very well to the Independents. That's how you win elections.
 
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Old 03-08-2008, 06:23 PM   #18
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My friends uncle has worked in the Pentagon for a decade or so. That must make him qualified to command the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.
 
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Old 03-09-2008, 07:57 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by Danneus View Post
Why? Because she didn't just sit around doing nothing, she was ACTIVE in political and administrative fields. There's no doubt that she's learned a A LOT from eight years of that. She also demonstrates her energy, productivity and big heart. She is a proven leader.

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Old 03-10-2008, 03:26 AM   #20
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Hillary has almost zero experience.
 
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