Clinton hints at shared ticket - Page 2

JaJae · 03-05-2008, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by WickedLou9

They are saying that Obama is going to re-gain some ground after the TX caucuses are over. Hillary's big wins don't seem to amount to much after all.

They weren't big wins. They were marginal at best compared to what she really needed. 51% in Texas and 54% in Ohio is basically what the polls showed before going in. And everyone was saying beforehand that she would need to do A LOT better than that if she wanted any chance at leading in the delegates. As it stands now Obama will win the rest of the southern states as well as the mountain states. He pulls big numbers in those regions. But even if he loses them all, Hillary still has to pull extremely large numbers in every remaining primary if she wants any chance at beating him in delegates.

Also 51% in Texas is not much in the primary. According to Slate, as of right now she's only picked up 3 delegates in Texas. And she'll likely lose them all in the caucus. Ohio hit Obama, but not really hard enough. Ohio was her best result, and if every remaining primary goes like Ohio did last night, she still loses. So yea, even though she won three states last night she didn't have any real gains in her viability of winning the nomination. She needs much stronger gains than she got last night if she wants any chance at winning. So even though she won three primaries, she actually moved herself further from the nomination. The more under performing primaries we get through the less likely it is for her to get the lead in delegates. She had a huge chance in Texas and Ohio last night to make some headway against Obama and she blew it. Two weeks ago she had a 10 point lead in Texas. Now it looks like she's going to have lost delegates there... that's devastating to her viability. She had a 20 point lead in Ohio two weeks ago which was cut in half.

JaJae · 03-05-2008, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by Publius

He's winning the caucus delegate count by about the same margin that Hillary won the primary, last I checked. Texas is going to end up being pretty much a wash.

But because of the structure of Texas the delegate counts, Obama's percentages will be worth a greater percentage of the delegates. If Obama and Hillary break even on percentages, it's very likely Obama will come away with more delegates. And in return he could actually win Texas.

Hillary won the popular vote in Nevada by 6 points, but lost the delegate count... We could easily see a similar scenario in Texas.

7960 · 03-05-2008, 01:46 PM

he needs 60-ish percent of the remaining delegates to win

she needs 95% of the remaining ones........

where's the fat lady?

Stylerod · 03-05-2008, 02:11 PM

I just can't see Obama doing this. Especially with him in the back seat. No way.

7960 · 03-05-2008, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

I just can't see Obama doing this. Especially with him in the back seat. No way.

what?

WickedLou9 · 03-05-2008, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

what?

A HIllary Obama ticket.

7960 · 03-05-2008, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by WickedLou9

A HIllary Obama ticket.

thanks, for some reason I read "I can't see obama doing this/ him in the back seat" as "I can't see him winning the nomination because he's behind"

on me

Linzyhop · 03-05-2008, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by David Octavius

Unnecessary...

If Clinton wins the nomination I am voting for McCain. As I have long said, we need someone that has the ability to reach across the aisle and a person who the opposition party wont shut out just because of the political affiliation. I feel Obama can do that and so can McCain, however Hillary can't. She has made it clear the republicans are enemies and the republicans made it clear they wont work with her, it will be 4 years of nothing getting done.

i meant for the democrats, i'm a mccainer too, but as far as i'm concerned obama or clinton, same thing, one's just more likable than the other....

Linzyhop · 03-05-2008, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

And clinton might choke on her dental dam while going down on her "partner"........elect the person you think is best. I'm not worrying about age or gender or color. I'm worrying about accomplishments and plans. None of them plans to die before the end of their term so that's not an issue for me.

indeed. unfortunately i think too many will vote purely based on those "issues".

lew · 03-05-2008, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by DosEquis

He also has that manbearpig incident/baggage that nearly cost the lives of those kids in colorado.

7960 · 03-05-2008, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

indeed. unfortunately i think too many will vote purely based on those "issues".

oh, I know

I'm never sure if I should laugh or get violent when a woman says "they're only voting for obama because he's black, but it's time this country elected a woman!" or when a black says "they're only voting for clinton because she's a woman, but it's time this country elected an african american!"

RMNIXON · 03-05-2008, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Publius

As far as I'm aware this is the first time either candidate has actually said it though.

And how should they answer a direct question? I sounded to me like Hillary might accept Obama as her VP and he was rather put off by the question.

Both are slinging mud at each other today, so the make nice party ticket will be long in coming if ever.

RMNIXON · 03-05-2008, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

I just can't see Obama doing this. Especially with him in the back seat. No way.

I have said it before, and I will repeat it again. I think it would be foolish for Obama to risk his political future by hitching up to the Clinton Wagon. Her negatives and her scandal problems might well continue. I would bet on it. He has plenty of other chances to run with more experiance not tied to her record.

Smull · 03-06-2008, 08:33 PM

I would lose a lot of respect for Obama if he entertains this idea, it also seems like (another) desperate campaign move by Clinton. I don't think theres anyway in Hell that she would even be thinking about Obama as a VP if she were up by 100+ delegates. Plus I don't see any positives that Clinton brings to the ticket that Obama doesn't, the only one you can kind of make an argument for is her "experience". Outside of the fact that shes been riding her husbands coattails I don't see what she has over Obama.

kombayn · 03-07-2008, 06:00 PM

Obama won't accept. These two really don't like each other now. They're just playing nice on camera, but if you had them in a private conversation, I bet $50 that they would drop f-bomb's and just rip them apart.

Scrum · 03-11-2008, 08:32 PM

kombayn · 03-11-2008, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by 7960

And clinton might choke on her dental dam while going down on her "partner"........elect the person you think is best. I'm not worrying about age or gender or color. I'm worrying about accomplishments and plans. None of them plans to die before the end of their term so that's not an issue for me.

HAHAHA!!! I almost fell out of my chair reading that. Don't you think Bill wouldn't of cheated on her, if she did that?