Q&A: Hillary Clinton | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008 | Newsweek.com Hillary in an interview with Newsweek: You ' ve been advocating seating delegations from Michigan and Florida. But Senator Obama wasn ' t even on the ballot in Michigan. Does making this argument risk alienating voters who think you ' ...
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03-10-2008, 11:37 AM
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| George W Bush, God's Tool  Independent ny 
| What do you Folks Think of this Hillary Quote? PART II Q&A: Hillary Clinton | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008 | Newsweek.com Hillary in an interview with Newsweek:
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03-10-2008, 11:56 AM
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| Junkie libertarian
| Didn't all of them agree to remove their names from the ballet, yet she didn't in the end? | ||||
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03-10-2008, 11:57 AM
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| George W Bush, God's Tool Independent ny
| Originally Posted by hsmith Yup..which makes her answer strange 
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03-10-2008, 11:58 AM
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| Perpetual Noob Independent
| The idea of seating delegates from contests that took place when everyone thought the votes would not count seems pretty unfair to me. If the voters believed their votes would not count, I'm sure that had some effect on who came out and and possibly even how they voted. | ||||
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03-10-2008, 12:02 PM
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| Originally Posted by David Octavius Clintons being Clintons
 But that is just bizarre, they had a gentleman's agreement ( ) and she broke it. | ||||
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03-10-2008, 12:53 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur.  Reform Party NJ
| Originally Posted by hsmith Hillary doesn't have the integrity to run an honest campaign, yet she wants us to trust her with the country after we've had to deal with Bush for all these years?
__________________ No good decision was ever made in a swivel chair. Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid: As we look back in history, the Founding Fathers would be cringing to hear people talking about eliminating earmarks. | ||||
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03-10-2008, 01:32 PM
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| Banned  Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| Okay, so Hillary didn't campaign in MI and FL, but Obama threw TV ads into Florida, yet Hillary broke the rules... Obama was so sure he was going to lose he took his name off the list...millions of people turned out for those primaries, yet it wasn't even a contest? They couldn't "officially" campaign, but there was quite a large movement by Obama supporters on the internet and elsewhere to vote "uncommitted" and as Gov. Rendell said yesterday "I'd rather run against someone than uncommitted" this is such an old story, why bring it up now when it looks near-sure like there is to be a revote, she must have said the exact same thing back in January | ||||
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03-10-2008, 01:36 PM
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| Hamiltonian > Jeffersonian  Libertarian Party DFW
|  Hillary held a fundraiser with press conference in Florida right before they voted. If that isn't campaigning, I don't know what is. | ||||
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03-10-2008, 01:47 PM
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| Banned Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| Originally Posted by Publius Well if you had bothered to read the rules, you'd know that holding a fundraiser isn't a violation of the rules...and Obama had done the exact same thing
where was this big public conference with all the media, i didn't see anything about it, did you simply make it up? | ||||
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03-10-2008, 02:11 PM
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| George W Bush, God's Tool Independent ny
| Originally Posted by Thorgrim Pulling it out of your ass? Proof Obama pulled out cause he thought he was going to lose? Thor, your too smart for such a dumb comment..I'm sure Obama knew he would lose in NY yet he was still on the ballot and being that the Democratic primaries are proportional, he has ever incentive to be on every ballot.
And why did every candidate except Hillary (and Kucinish but lets be real) take their names off the ballot? Because the DNC asked them too and they complied. Hillary left her name on because she is a strategic cold hearted person who wanted Michigen and Florida in her back pocket just in case the campaign went longer than expected. | ||||
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03-10-2008, 02:24 PM
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| Lurker  Republican Michigan
| If I read the qoute right she doesn't think she's running the risk of alienating voters? That's all I hear from the people I talk with. Now, I realize that might not be the mood statewide but these people were Clinton supporters before she in their words "tried to pull this B.S." Now they are questioning her integrity or the lack of it bigtime.  Edit to mention I'm from Northern (very) Michigan | ||||
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03-10-2008, 02:37 PM
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| Banned Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| Originally Posted by David Octavius Bzzt, wrong:
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03-10-2008, 02:41 PM
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| Originally Posted by Thorgrim Looks like Hillary won fair and square, right? I don't see any reason why those delegates shouldn't count  | ||||
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03-10-2008, 02:46 PM
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| Banned Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| Originally Posted by Phantom I think you quoted the wrong post...im responding to someone saying the DNC asked candidates to pull their names off the Michigan ballot
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03-10-2008, 10:40 PM
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| Typical response for hillary. She wants the votes to count now because she had no clue she'd be behind, muchless 100+ delegates behind at this point. Now she wants to change the rules in the middle of the game. | ||||
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03-11-2008, 12:43 AM
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| One American Family at a Time.  Idealist The OC, California
| Originally Posted by JaJae
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03-11-2008, 01:25 AM
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| Banned Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| actually she's wanted them to count for awhile...she's only voicing her opinion because damn near everyone else except Obama is... | ||||
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03-11-2008, 01:45 AM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur. Reform Party NJ
| Originally Posted by Thorgrim ... Only after she won. Come one now, when the primary date scandals were going on she was clearly speaking out against Michigan and Florida dates. Everyone knows this.
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03-11-2008, 01:55 AM
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| Banned Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| Originally Posted by JaJae scandals? was sen. levin bribed?
she said she'd respect the rules and not campaign, something Obama couldn't live up to... And now, yes she won, but there are other reasons that Michigan and Florida should count and Obama is being a god damn moron by passively objecting or accepting depending on what mood he is in that day Florida and Michigan want to do a re-vote, the voters and their Senators/Reps are behind this...why would anyone be so stupid as to piss off two states, one of which is a must win battleground and the other (with PA or OH) would most likely seal the deal for Obama It's simple, he knows Clinton and her surrogates started the whole "lets get PRIVATE donors, and not tax the citizens, for a revote" and he looks like a big dope just sitting there, having done nothing to resolve this, after almost 2 months of this being a near-crisis for Democrats he doesn't want Hillary to possibly look good, but he is lazy as hell so he's just sort of standing around and letting his surrogates make some pot shots while not actually calling the revote horrible he's had a tough couple of weaks...Hillary roars back...everyone is talking about a revote, the media is all abuzz...now they are all talking about a "dream ticket"...fucking sucks to be Obama right now, he's just trying to tough it out until NC/PR etc come in and then he'll remake his arguments until then he has to hear the Clinton team making all the big political news and directing all the stories...which isn't a bad thing because there is absolutely nothing interesting coming out of the Obama campaign this month, they are just repeating what they said last month, and no one cares | ||||
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03-11-2008, 05:28 AM
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| 100% L.A. Livin'  Independent Los Angeles, CA
| Political positions of Hillary Rodham Clinton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I read this over, while having fun on Wikipedia. This woman wants to lead us into Socialism. She'd be a perfect candidate for a Socialist Workers Party ticket. Here are some quotes, I found interesting.
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