Originally Posted by Thorgrim From what I hear, he already said he supports her He does, but he won't get to vote now that he is no longer governor. His replacement is also a super delegate so he won't be able vote twice....
03-12-2008, 01:31 PM
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| Never, never, never give up  Conservative Party High Point, NC 
| Originally Posted by Thorgrim He does, but he won't get to vote now that he is no longer governor. His replacement is also a super delegate so he won't be able vote twice. 
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03-12-2008, 01:32 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur.  Reform Party NJ
| Originally Posted by Stylerod
If he were a Republican I don't think this would have happened like this.
__________________ No good decision was ever made in a swivel chair. Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid: As we look back in history, the Founding Fathers would be cringing to hear people talking about eliminating earmarks. | ||||
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03-12-2008, 01:36 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by JaJae If it was a Republican not only would it have been mentioned, it would be part of the news title like below.
"Republican Governor Soandso spent $80k on Hookers" | ||||
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03-12-2008, 01:45 PM
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| Banned  Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| Spitzer didn't run on Christian Values... Did you guys notice that media went batshit crazy when the liberal new york governor uses hooker but when ultra-christian family values SENATOR Vitter uses hookers, no story, and everyone has forgotten, no resignation, no investigation | ||||
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03-12-2008, 01:49 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by Thorgrim So what you are saying is since he's not Christian he was expected to be immoral? Or is it because he's a Democrat?
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03-12-2008, 01:55 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur. Reform Party NJ
| Originally Posted by Thorgrim He ran on integrity and wanted to clean up the corruption in NY, etc. That's no different. He shouldn't get a pass for not running on Christian values. That's absurd, come on now.
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03-12-2008, 01:56 PM
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| Originally Posted by Stylerod Everyone knows if you don't really care about abortion either way, and your wife has one, it's no big deal
But if you are pro-life all the way and go nuts about to get where you are, and then have an abortion, there is something to go  atI think Spitzer went after two abusive prostitution rings in his entire career, the services he used are the same or better than the completely legal ones in Las Vegas, AMERICA...you treat a girl with respect and give her a large amount of money for what she wants to do, I think they had the girl on NBC and said he was a nice guy and tipped well I really don't have a problem with that, nor do most modern democrats, its the GOP which who is all 'OMG A PROSTITUTE, AHHHHHH' | ||||
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03-12-2008, 02:01 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by Thorgrim I actually don't have a problem with prostitution and think it should be legal. But that fact is, it's not legal. And since it's not he shouldn't have done it. It put him and his office in danger of blackmail and corruption. Some reports are even saying that the mob might be involved in the prostitution ring he was dealing with and that is why it was noticed.
Most everyone thinks that if you break the law you should be punished. You don't when it's a Democrat because you think they are above laws. Unfortunately you aren't the only one. | ||||
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03-12-2008, 02:02 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur. Reform Party NJ
| Originally Posted by Thorgrim But um, he cared about prostitution...
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03-12-2008, 02:07 PM
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| America Fuck Yea Election Moderator  Republican In Name Only
| Originally Posted by Thorgrim "These defendants claimed to be operating a traditional travel agency. It is far from that," Attorney General Eliot Spitzer said. He said the travel agency's actions "led to the systematic exploitation and suppression of young women."
USATODAY.com - Tour operators indicted on Asian 'sex tours' charges | ||||
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03-12-2008, 02:09 PM
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| America Fuck Yea Election Moderator Republican In Name Only
| 18 Arrested in Lucrative Prostitution Ring Out of Staten Island By WILLIAM K. RASHBAUM Eighteen men and women were arrested yesterday on charges that they helped run a sophisticated prostitution ring that masked its operation behind a series of corporate fronts and escort services with names like Gentlemen's Delight, Day Dreams and Personal Touch, officials said. Records that were seized in a search at the home of one of the ring leaders indicated that the operation brought in $1.6 million in nine months, a law enforcement official said. Prosecutors from the State Organized Crime Task Force, working with the New York Police Department and the F.B.I., charged 16 people with enterprise corruption and two others with falsifying business records and promoting prostitution and money laundering. About eight midlevel managers ran the ring, which operated 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, using about 15 to 20 drivers to dispatch 30 to 40 prostitutes each day, officials said. In most instances, customers paid $250 for sex, sometimes using credit cards. The transactions, officials said, were processed through merchant accounts held by escort services or limousine companies, and in one instance a company that hired musical bands for weddings. ''This was a sophisticated and lucrative operation with a multitiered management structure,'' the state attorney general, Eliot Spitzer, who oversees the task force, said in a statement. ''It was, however, nothing more than a prostitution ring, and now its owners and operators will be held accountable.'' Investigators with the task force came across the ring while looking into the activities of a Gambino crime family gambling operation, the law enforcement official said. They had wiretapped a Gambino-linked social club on Fingerboard Road in Staten Island as part of that inquiry and saw the prostitution ring's leader, Frank Farella, 44, of Staten Island, visiting at the club, the official said. An indictment charging Mr. Farella and others with enterprise corruption identifies him as the owner and leader of the illegal enterprise, and John Pioppo, 42, of Staten Island, and Mario Galbo, 58, of Brooklyn, as senior managers responsible for day-to-day operations and overseeing the midlevel office supervisors. Most of the defendants were arraigned yesterday in State Supreme Court on Staten Island before Justice Leonard P. Rienzi, who set bail for Mr. Farella at $400,000. He set bail for Mr. Pioppo at $80,000 and for Mr. Galbo at $40,000. Mr. Farella's lawyer, Vincent J. Romano, said he and his client knew about the investigation since the first search warrant in the investigation of the prostitution ring was executed in October 2002. But Mr. Romano insisted that his client's businesses were lawful and that he was unaware that anyone who worked for him was exchanging sex for money. ''It was a business,'' Mr. Romano said. ''It was a legitimate business.'' He said his client ''didn't authorize, force or coerce'' anyone to take part in any illegal activity. ''If it happened, my client didn't know it happened,'' the lawyer added. The women were dispatched from storefront offices in Staten Island and from a Brooklyn apartment and would be dropped off by the limousine drivers, mostly in Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island, the law enforcement official said. Two women would ride with each driver, and they would work 12-hour shifts, the official said. They carried a device inside the car to make an imprint of customers' credit cards, the official said. At the end of the night, most of the drivers and the women would come together to settle up at a Dunkin' Donuts shop or a diner in Brooklyn, with as many as six of the cars parked outside as the credit-card receipts and cash were counted and the women were given their share of roughly one-third of the proceeds, the official said. 18 Arrested in Lucrative Prostitution Ring Out of Staten Island - New York Times I wonder if Eliot found the contact info for his whores from this investigation, and this proves that he knew that the money he paid would likely be funneled into organized crime | ||||
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03-12-2008, 02:16 PM
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| Originally Posted by Stylerod I didn't say they shouldn't be punished, I'm saying they shouldn't be "shamed" or expected to resign because they violate stupid laws, they should pay the stupid fines and move on...
With the GOP it's different because you had radically anti-gay people turn out to be having sex in mens bathroom, or trying to molest boys, etc JUST A TAD DIFFERENT You are jumping from one tree to another, just because he gave in to sexual desires DOES NOT mean he is ANYMORE likely to be be the victim of blackmail...I might as well say Dick Cheney was always a bad pick for public office because his daughter being used to be a secret and foreign governments could blackmail him because it could have ruined his standing in the GOP...it's a stupid argument If your world view is so warped that you think Eliot Spitzer = Larry Craig or Mark Foley  | ||||
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03-12-2008, 02:48 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by Thorgrim Wow. You really zig-zagged around the issue didn't you!
 So let's say this prostitution ring is controlled by the mob and they find out the Governor of NY is their client. You think there is no possibility that they would try to black mail him? Are you insane? He put his position and office in jeopardy. He also violated Federal laws by transporting a prostitute across state lines. You already have shown you don't think he should be held to the same standards as a republican when it comes to breaking laws, so you don't have to go over that path again. | ||||
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03-12-2008, 03:00 PM
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| a stupid law doesn't become more intelligent when it's federal I think someone who has lambasted homosexuals and then turns out to be having sex with men in bathrooms should be shamed and forced to resign (which actually he never did, and the press has ignored that he is still in the senate) That's the GOP way, run and win on being anti-gay, plead guilty to breaking the law by trying to get homosexual sex in a mens bathroom, then make some ridiculous denial that you are not a homosexual, and you stay in office Democrat gets caught paying a prostitute money, and he's forced to resign almost immediately Yes, we've got your view, apparently if someone believes speeding is terribly immoral, runs a campaign that any speeding over 1mph should have an emormous fine, and then is caught speeding, it should be the same shame and ridicule if you or me were speeding I see no logic, but its opinion you are entitled to it | ||||
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03-12-2008, 03:05 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by Thorgrim Dude. You keep telling us Democrats don't need to follow laws. We know that. Enough already.
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03-12-2008, 03:16 PM
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| America Fuck Yea Election Moderator Republican In Name Only
| Originally Posted by Stylerod plz quote my news stories to show the hyporicy from Spitzer, its akin to anti-gay politicans getting caught doing meth and bottoming for other men
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03-12-2008, 03:26 PM
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| Originally Posted by Stylerod Sure they should, David Rostenkowski deserved everyday he got, and then some
But that's actual corruption...people elected him so he WOULDN'T sell them out prostitution, drugs, speeding, etc...they are dumb laws that we keep because no Democrat can win office because of several backwards values we hold In NY, it would have been perfectly legal for some dancer (hotter than the girl he got) to get naked and grind against him until he got off, and that's okay, infact it's widespread all across this country But, if, god forbid, the girl said "for more money, ill use my hand on your cock instead of grinding my naked pussy on your pants" well then, it's outrageous and illegal  American Values | ||||
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03-12-2008, 03:32 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by kinggovernor Are you suggesting I show something logical in the hopes that it will change his mind that Democrats are not above the law? Please....
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03-12-2008, 03:36 PM
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