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Old 03-13-2008, 06:39 PM   #21
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So just a quick show of hands and it looks like nobody here thinks the moon landing was faked right? Please tell me none of you are that far off center.
 
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:21 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by northhunter View Post
So just a quick show of hands and it looks like nobody here thinks the moon landing was faked right? Please tell me none of you are that far off center.
there are also people who believe we did go, but that just the first trip was faked because we wanted to be first and couldn't take the chance that the russians would launch before us.

these lunatics are more common than you think.
 
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:57 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by northhunter View Post
So just a quick show of hands and it looks like nobody here thinks the moon landing was faked right? Please tell me none of you are that far off center.
The moon landing was real but everyone knows Reagan blew up Challenger because a female-teacher astronaut was too liberal
 
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Old 03-13-2008, 10:02 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by 7960 View Post
there are also people who believe we did go, but that just the first trip was faked because we wanted to be first and couldn't take the chance that the russians would launch before us.

these lunatics are more common than you think.
For every major event in history there are people that will try to prove it didn't happen, or it didn't happen like it was told.

The Moon, Pearl Harbor, most plane crashes, 9/11, Kennedy, Waco, Area 51 etc.

Nothing big happens without kooks saying they know the real story.
 
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Old 03-13-2008, 10:48 PM   #25
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Oh I know there are lunatics like 7960 mentioned out there, I was just hoping none, or at least not too many of the regulars in here were one of them.
And no I can't define "too many" for you but I'll know it when I see it.
 
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Old 03-14-2008, 12:41 AM   #26
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Area 51 is a real weird case...im not waving my flag about aliens making contact in 1948, but they do some really weird shit there, honestly, as the world's lone super power, do we need to keep that many secrets? Every military in the world is like 10-20 years behind us
 
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Old 03-14-2008, 02:10 AM   #27
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Area 51 is a real weird case...im not waving my flag about aliens making contact in 1948, but they do some really weird shit there, honestly, as the world's lone super power, do we need to keep that many secrets? Every military in the world is like 10-20 years behind us
Sounds like a good reason TO keep those secrets.

Oh shit, I forgot to answer in the form of a conspiracy theory. Hold on.



We are blackmailing the alien sociologists that if they don't keep us ahead in technology by at least 2 decades we'll release the information that they are watching us. This would ruin their carefully crafted social experiment of "What would a civilization do if they didn't know there was civilized life on every single planet in the universe?"
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Old 03-14-2008, 03:09 AM   #28
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
whats so nutty about aliens helping human civilization? (not the moon landings, but the first river-civilizations?)
You think aliens came from another galaxy to build a pyramid?
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Originally Posted by Simius View Post
Sounds like a good reason TO keep those secrets.

Oh shit, I forgot to answer in the form of a conspiracy theory. Hold on.



We are blackmailing the alien sociologists that if they don't keep us ahead in technology by at least 2 decades we'll release the information that they are watching us. This would ruin their carefully crafted social experiment of "What would a civilization do if they didn't know there was civilized life on every single planet in the universe?"
But it's pretty ridiculous that in open american court, the US military and government denies the existance of Area 51, yet everyday dozens+ of American civilians take a plane ride into Area 51

Like c'mon, no one is asking for tech specs, but it'd be nice to have some idea what our tax dollars are going to spend...
 
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
But it's pretty ridiculous that in open american court, the US military and government denies the existance of Area 51, yet everyday dozens+ of American civilians take a plane ride into Area 51

Like c'mon, no one is asking for tech specs, but it'd be nice to have some idea what our tax dollars are going to spend...


Well it is a good thing we keep the fact we have a base there a secret. I'd hate for any unauthorized personnel to realize that. I mean, shit, if it gets out we have a top secret military base in that area Russia might send a spy satellite and take some pictures of it. But since we deny it is there Russia doesn't even think to point its satelites in that direction.
 
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Old 03-14-2008, 07:00 AM   #31
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the problem is that imagination inflates things

it would be remarkable if there werent behind the scenes shenanigans & smoke filled back rooms where power od dealt & deals cut etc.

its how humans behave, ..., i can see evidence of such stuff even on the the blandest of message boards

equally any huge successfull conspiracy, especially if centuries old, would have its whistleblowers, schisms etc as thats how humans behave too.



i think that there are many unanswered questions in the Kennedy assassination



& only today the bbc are reporting a story that would provide fodder
for fans of huge conspiracy stories

NI business man, Brendan Duddy was for 20 years the go between the IRA & UK govt
in 93 the UK govt was given a message the gist of which was that the conflict was over but the IRA needed British advice on how to end its war.

Several times Major has said the message came from IRA leader Martin Mcguiness, who has always denied this

Duddy now says he didnt make it up meaning only his MI6 (MI5?) contact 'Robert' could have made it up, ..., which if true is truely astounding

I can find no links on this except this one which is a real player clip of this morning radio broadcast & it may well not work outside the UK

Last edited by avsp; 03-15-2008 at 06:10 AM. Reason: insertion of link etc
 
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Old 03-14-2008, 07:32 AM   #32
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The govt hasn't "denied" area 51 in a while. They admit there's a facility there, they just don't talk about it.
 
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Old 03-14-2008, 04:00 PM   #33
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Originally Posted by 7960 View Post
The govt hasn't "denied" area 51 in a while. They admit there's a facility there, they just don't talk about it.

There is a Groom Lake Department of the Air Force Flight Test Facility.





Now shut the fuck up about Area 51!
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