Obama's surrogates playing the race card again: ON first watching Hillary Clinton’s recent “It’s 3 a.m.” advertisement, I was left with an uneasy feeling that something was not quite right — something that went beyond my disappointment that she had decided to go negative. Repeated watching of the ad on ...
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| Banned Progressive Philadelphia, PA ![]()
| Respected NYT Obama supporter: 3am Clinton ad was racist "Ku Klux Klan" ad Obama's surrogates playing the race card again:
More Obama supporters agree: The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan I have never heard something so ridiculous in this campaign...the Obama crowd will super-analyze EVERYTHING until they can find a way to make it racist...a pattern I've seen since they lied about Clinton's "fairy tale" line If Obama supporters harp on for the next 8 months about McCain being racist and constantly doing racist things, are you going to switch your vote? You think this is a winning strategy for a general election? | ||||
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| One American Family at a Time. Idealist The OC, California ![]() ![]()
| It's not suprising to me to read that into the image. I have seen the film he is speaking of, and whether it is purposeful or not, there are cetain images and linguistic clues contrasting off the images that seem to reflect in culture, and in many cultures. One of those cues is the idea of the "dark" man being negative, and it is so prevelent, that fundamental social shift that dark is inherently bad because of symbolism, is reflected onto what we see in culture. Why is the heroine of the story typically young, helpless, alone, and fair? Because the human collective unconsious created it, and it's the same reason why today, we still struggle with racial issues. The Clinton campaign may not have purposefully leaned the commercial in this direction, but it is certainly an archetype that is prevelent. And, I am pressuming that this can be conjured up by the mere showing of a white/pale woman looking after her white/pale children, under the hood of "night". Symbols have alot of meaning. Humans are the only animal to use symbols and metaphor. | ||||
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| they may not have personally leaned the commercial in this direction? you really don't think he over-analyzed and you are just agreeing it's randing scribbling | ||||
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| Originally Posted by Thorgrim
Do I think he over analyzed? I think he supported his anlyzation with a well known and played out archetype, that does reflect an aspect of American Culture, an archetype that was once promenient, and is just now starting to break down in mainstream culture. I think that this is in the concious of Americans, our history has shown a habitual nature to confirm archetypes and it has only been the past 60 years that more stident movements within the culture has come to majority. One day this won't be an issue, and the image of the person in distress could have been a Father looking in on his children, being comfortable with Homosexual Latino President who is answering his phone in the middle of the night. This professor is reflecting on that culture shift, that's what people do at Universities. | ||||
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| Originally Posted by IminWonderland Obama supporters don't do it on Op-Eds of the NYT, he didn't do this as a class discussion, he did it as a public accusation of racism
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| Anything that plays to the racist card is ignorant... Now if her 3am ad said, "It's 3am... Do you want a [CENSORED (N-Word)] answering the phone?" then ya... Over the line. His campaign needs to drop this race card, it just plays to the media and the uninformed TMZ crowd. | ||||
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| Originally Posted by Thorgrim And it is great that we have forums to be able to look at his ideas, understand why those ideas could be present, and then decide that we aren't going to view the ad in that reflection.
I am saying I understand what he sees, or thinks he sees, I see the same kind of symbolism EVERYWHERE. But, it doesn't mean that Clinton was racist. | ||||
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur. Reform Party NJ ![]() ![]()
| Originally Posted by kombayn It's not his campaign. It's a sociology professor from Harvard who probably never met Obama or anyone in his campaign. I'm sure if people looked hard enough we could find feminist professors writing similar things regarding Hillary. It doesn't mean anything. Obama doesn't control the views and writings of people voting for him, nor has he attempted to monopolize on this that I'm aware of. And if it drew serious media attention I have a feeling he'd "repudiate" the statements.
And going over Obama's donations, I don't see anything from an Orlando Patterson.
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| ..... your a worthless poster Realist ![]() ![]()
| I saw the commercial. Only a racist would say that commercial was racist. | ||||
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| [hi-5] Independent Los Angeles, CA ![]()
| ^ and to reply to JaJae, that Harvard man needs his Harvard degree revoked. If a dumb-ass like myself knows the difference, then come on... GO YALE! | ||||
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