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Old 03-11-2008, 09:10 PM   #1
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Tables have turned: MS exit polls show Clinton supporters less likely to vote Obama

Sen. Barack Obama will win Mississippi's Democratic primary, CNN projects.

Interestingly, exit polls shows that of those who voted for Obama, 42% said they would be satisfied if Sen. Hillary Clinton was the nominee. Among Clinton voters, only 16% said they would be satisfied if Obama wins the party's top spot.

Obama Wins in Mississippi -- Political Wire

So looks like Obama would be heading the party to defeat if he doesn't work out something with Hillary, who may infact end up with the popular vote lead if Florida/Michigan revotes properly
 
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Old 03-11-2008, 09:30 PM   #2
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Dirty politics has its toll. Hillary is essentially telling her supporters if she isn't the nominee they should vote for McCain.
 
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Old 03-12-2008, 12:45 AM   #3
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Just as a follow-up. 99% reported thus far and Obama is up by 24 points. It's a rather large blow out headed into PA which Hillary is the strong favorite. Apparently calling the entire state of Mississippi sexist wasn't a good campaign strategy for Hillary. I don't think she thought the primaries would go on this long when she made those statements.

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Old 03-12-2008, 09:36 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Sen. Barack Obama will win Mississippi's Democratic primary, CNN projects.

Interestingly, exit polls shows that of those who voted for Obama, 42% said they would be satisfied if Sen. Hillary Clinton was the nominee. Among Clinton voters, only 16% said they would be satisfied if Obama wins the party's top spot.

Obama Wins in Mississippi -- Political Wire

So looks like Obama would be heading the party to defeat if he doesn't work out something with Hillary, who may infact end up with the popular vote lead if Florida/Michigan revotes properly
One or Two states does not reflect the thoughts of the Union and, moreover, there is still a lot time between now and the general, those attitudes can change.

Lastly, to use your logic, it's a red state so why care what the exit polls show since it will be republican anyway?
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Old 03-12-2008, 10:54 AM   #5
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Oh the irony



Thorgrim's precious Democrat Party could be defeated because his favorite candidate won't like the nominee
 
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Old 03-12-2008, 11:28 AM   #6
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You know what Thor? just because your favorite candidate is trying to divide the democratic party more than her rival is... and it is working (assuming those exit polls are right) considering her supporters are becoming more "Hillary or bust" than her rival's supporters are... That doesn't make me more inclined to vote for her or hope she wins the primaries.

That just makes me hope she will succumb to her inevitable defeat even quicker since her staying in the race 1. She has no chance she'll secure the nomination without some blatantly dirty tricks at the convention 2. If there are dirty tricks at the convention the Dems lose anyway 3. She is hurting the Democrats chances more than helping them by supporting the Republican candidate over Obama who will inevitably secure the nomination (barring 1 and 2).

Considering you are a die in the wool Democrat, I'm surprised you spend so much time trying to make the Democrat candidate who will secure the nomination look bad. I understand you like Hillary more than Obama... But I really doubt you'd rather have McCain in office than Obama. Just some food for thought.

But good luck with the whole zOMG Obama is the worst candidate ever thing you have going on.
 
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Old 03-12-2008, 11:34 AM   #7
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I think basing your opinions for national political campaigns on the voters in mississippi would be a foolish thing to do.
 
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Old 03-12-2008, 12:18 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by WickedLou9 View Post
I think basing your opinions for national political campaigns on the voters in mississippi would be a foolish thing to do.
In the post-Ohio comeback, I'll have to wait for PA but, unless there is some major changes, they'll show the same thing
 
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Old 03-12-2008, 12:27 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Simius View Post
You know what Thor? just because your favorite candidate is trying to divide the democratic party more than her rival is... and it is working (assuming those exit polls are right) considering her supporters are becoming more "Hillary or bust" than her rival's supporters are... That doesn't make me more inclined to vote for her or hope she wins the primaries.

That just makes me hope she will succumb to her inevitable defeat even quicker since her staying in the race 1. She has no chance she'll secure the nomination without some blatantly dirty tricks at the convention 2. If there are dirty tricks at the convention the Dems lose anyway 3. She is hurting the Democrats chances more than helping them by supporting the Republican candidate over Obama who will inevitably secure the nomination (barring 1 and 2).

Considering you are a die in the wool Democrat, I'm surprised you spend so much time trying to make the Democrat candidate who will secure the nomination look bad. I understand you like Hillary more than Obama... But I really doubt you'd rather have McCain in office than Obama. Just some food for thought.

But good luck with the whole zOMG Obama is the worst candidate ever thing you have going on.
Using the race card against a white woman in the primary is the perfect way to shore up your then-lagging african american support so you can muscle your way through SC and make up for an embarrassing loss in NH and NV

Strange after Hillary lost in Iowa, no one was talking about how the Democrats were being divided, but after Obama started losing in New Hampshire and Nevada, then the desperate race cards start being drawn, people start getting divided, and he got the upper hand

Good short term call, but it only lead to situations where states like Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, etc are showing polls with Clinton with double digit leads against him as of today

If Obama chooses to join a ticket with Hillary, how would that in and of itself be a dirty trick?

I didn't root for Kerry in the 2004 primary because it was obvious he knew little about national politics and was going to play the "oh im the change candidate, k vote for me thnx, ignore the negative ads"

Obama is going to do the same thing and lose, not only that but if he somehow pulls off a win, he looks like he'll spend all his post-election momentum getting nothing done

Ofcourse, McCain would be much worse, but Obama is still setting up to be disappointing
 
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Old 03-12-2008, 12:43 PM   #10
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So basically, the democrats are screwed when it comes to the President.

Obama and Hillary have polarized each other.

 
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Old 03-12-2008, 01:11 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by hsmith View Post
So basically, the democrats are screwed when it comes to the President.

Obama and Hillary have polarized each other.

I'm still hoping a brokered convention leads to Al Gore being nominated

He'd be the most amazing president of all time
 
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Old 03-12-2008, 01:26 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
I'm still hoping a brokered convention leads to Al Gore being nominated

He'd be the most amazing president of all time
Doesn't pay enough. I don't think we'll be seeing Al Gore as president any time soon.
 
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
I'm still hoping a brokered convention leads to Al Gore being nominated

He'd be the most amazing president of all time
Al Gore will be a billionaire when all his cronies pass laws mandating his "energy solutions" be used. Why would he risk that to be President?

Please, what a pipe dream.
 
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
I'm still hoping a brokered convention leads to Al Gore being nominated

He'd be the most amazing president of all time
Oh hell!

"To all the Democrats that have spent their time, energy and money supporting and voting for your candidates of Clinton and Obama! Since we don't want to divide the party anymore we, the DNC, have decided to not listen to any of you and we made the decision to nominate Al Gore!"

No, that would be golden. I would love to see that.
 
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Old 03-12-2008, 01:57 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by Stylerod View Post
Oh hell!

"To all the Democrats that have spent their time, energy and money supporting and voting for your candidates of Clinton and Obama! Since we don't want to divide the party anymore we, the DNC, have decided to not listen to any of you and we made the decision to nominate Al Gore!"

No, that would be golden. I would love to see that.
Hillary and Obama would sign off on it...it'd be a "compromise" not a "from Howard Dean" message
 
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Hillary and Obama would sign off on it...it'd be a "compromise" not a "from Howard Dean" message
Wait, you think Hillary would step aside to let Al run?
 
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Wait, you think Hillary would step aside to let Al run?
So goes the rumor
 
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So goes the rumor


hey, I also heard a rumor that the polls are entirely wrong regarding Ron Paul and that Paul will sweep the states.
 
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Old 03-12-2008, 03:13 PM   #19
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Obama and Clinton are both losing Michigan by 3 points to McCain as of TODAY

Who do you think has more of a chance of taking a nose dive in the polls? Be honest

Once the GOP labels him as the terrorist muslim non-patriotic inexperienced coke-snorting slumlord-connected...etc it's going to wear and wear and come poll time, much like we saw in NH, good money has it there will be a dramatic shift and he will drop like a rock in final vote

Obama is fresh and new, he's had impressive victories, the economy is looking worse everyday, people hate the war in Iraq, they are sick of the Republicans, if he was 1/10th the candidate people on here make him out to be, he should be beating McCain by 20pts in all the Kerry states, and 10pts in Florida/Ohio/Iowa/New Mexico

Who wants to gamble on a guy who is already wearing thin on many democrats and the public in general...and is losing to a frickin Republican who went hard-right and has a rich history of scandals regarding Keating 5

That's what Hillary and many others are thinking, why do you think the superdelegates haven't rallied to Obama? They know it's more likely than not he'll lose to McCain, hey...Reagan won in 1980 so anything can happen, but if I was at the convention, ofcourse I'd go for Hillary first, but then I'd look for anyone else who could rally the party together, Al Gore is the perfect choice
 
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Originally Posted by lew View Post
hey, I also heard a rumor that the polls are entirely wrong regarding Ron Paul and that Paul will sweep the states.