DailyKos Self Destructs

[JaJae]

Apparently many users over at DailyKos are tired of all the users who are hostile towards Hillary Clinton and don't feel they are getting fair treatment on the site. So they've decided to boycott DailyKos and moved to a similar blogging site called MyDD which tends to be pro-Hillary.

Hillary Clinton has for a very long time been despised by the DailyKos crowd and the blogging community, mainly because of her long-standing support of the war in Iraq. New ammunition has been given to the DailyKos community after they've learned Hillary is willing to destroy their cherished party from within if it means she can steal the nomination. Obviously this brings about a lot of anger and hate for the typical DailyKos user. As a result the community by and large has not been supportive or even kind to the differing and minority opinions towards Hillary Clinton.

So essentially this boycott is among Hillary supporters who no longer wish to support the Kos community. They intend to pull out leaving the site one-sided towards Obama. The boycott essentially involves never going back to the site for any reason so they will not contribute to ad revenues for the site.

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I have to agree with a statement made by a blogger quoted in this article.

The only difference is now we’re attacking a candidate[Hillary Clinton] whom YOU feel strongly about.

Sorry. It happens.

[RMNIXON]

Sounds like some of the DK Hitler Youth have gone Rebel?

A good time for Dick Nixon to sign up and give them real trouble!

[Thorgrim]

MyDD and DailyKos were very often visisted by both the active users, especially Hillary supporters

Neither site is having a problem with ad revenue, and indeed both have expanded their staff for the election with increased ad revenue

A lot of the constant attacks on Hillary that happen here happen on DailyKos, it's funny I thought you'd be celebrating considering a lot their diaries are pretty much cut and paste what pretty much everyone who doesn't like hillary here writes

[Dumpy Dooby]

I don't think too highly of the DailyKos. But I always get a good chuckle when I see Hotair or FoxNews using political attacks that originated on the DailyKos. I noticed with the Ron Paul campaign (mainly because that's the campaign I followed most closely), and I'm noticing it with the Clinton campaign.

[Rouger2]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

MyDD and DailyKos were very often visisted by both the active users, especially Hillary supporters

Neither site is having a problem with ad revenue, and indeed both have expanded their staff for the election with increased ad revenue

A lot of the constant attacks on Hillary that happen here happen on DailyKos, it's funny I thought you'd be celebrating considering a lot their diaries are pretty much cut and paste what pretty much everyone who doesn't like hillary here writes

Your wrong about me I visited the Kos a couple of times years ago, and I have not been back since, and I have been posting against Hillary getting the nomination here in the LL.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Rouger2

Your wrong about me I visited the Kos a couple of times years ago, and I have not been back since, and I have been posting against Hillary getting the nomination here in the LL.

Wherever you look for stories though...like the politico, realclearpolitics, heck even msnbc/cnn/etc...the anti-hillary stories (which make up about 90% of political stories these days) are almost always breaking diaries from dailykos

the internet, talk radio, cable media...have all been taking their cues from DailyKos

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

A lot of the constant attacks on Hillary that happen here happen on DailyKos, it's funny I thought you'd be celebrating considering a lot their diaries are pretty much cut and paste what pretty much everyone who doesn't like hillary here writes

I have no sorrow, nor will I rejoice over this story. I really don't care about what happens to DailyKos whether they go pro-Hillary or pro-Obama. However, what I do find very interesting and ironic is how the most famous, popular, and active liberal blog in the world has had a massive loss in members due to an inherent intolerance of political views.

[David Octavius]

This election was handed to them on a silver platter - an economy getting worse under the watch of an unpopular opposition party President, a war that is going sideways in Iraq for some time now and increasing oil prices. What more do the Democrats want?

But instead of choosing between two candidates who's differences are only minor, they rather have the candidate they want now at all costs and to hell with the general election! What a strategic blunder.

And it is Hillary's fault - she even admitted having a "kitchen sink" strategy to smear Obama. She talks about the principals of democracy and unity but she doesn't practice it. She smears her own party candidate (if you can't unify your own party how can you unify the nation?) for her own gain and she will willingly skirt the democratic process by trying to win via super delegates - what kind of leader is that in republic?

[lew]

Originally Posted by David Octavius

This election was handed to them on a silver platter - an economy getting worse under the watch of an unpopular opposition party President, a war that is going sideways in Iraq for some time now and increasing oil prices. What more do the Democrats want?

But instead of choosing between two candidates who's differences are only minor, they rather have the candidate they want now at all costs and to hell with the general election! What a strategic blunder.

And it is Hillary's fault - she even admitted having a "kitchen sink" strategy to smear Obama. She talks about the principals of democracy and unity but she doesn't practice it. She smears her own party candidate (if you can't unify your own party how can you unify the nation?) for her own gain and she will willingly skirt the democratic process by trying to win via super delegates - what kind of leader is that in republic?

If the Democrats cannot beat McCain in this election, they are completely worthless

[Thorgrim]

The 2004 election was also supposedly "handed to the democrats on a silver platter" in Feb of 2004 I think every Dem candidate was beating Bush in the polls, every single one

People didn't care who the democrat was, just as long as the politician's name wasn't Bush

Now, I saw polls with Biden, Dodd, Richardson, Edwards, etc all losing to McCain/Rudy...some even came close to Romney

A significant chunk of people are stupid enough to think McCain is a moderate who happens to be a Republican, even though to this day he is saying how conservative he is, and I'm not going to get into all the right-wing things he did this campaign+past 8 years

And let's be honest, a woman or a black candidate are both gambles per se

If it wasn't someone as battle hardened as Hillary, they'd never pass the "toughness" test, but if they are veterans, they are mocked as too partisan

If it wasn't someone the black community itself said "Is he really black?" Obama would have been marginalized as a black candidate by now, and with all that pastor stuff, he might still yet

America is racist and sexist, and Democrats know it, and they really want to win so they're trying to play this out longer to see who can win the gamble

If Hillary had dropped out, the pastor story would have been 10x bigger, and half the democrats would have went "oh great, now we're fucked...we're stuck with a guy and this story is going to play on and on as there is nothing else political going on..."

[David Octavius]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

The 2004 election was also supposedly "handed to the democrats on a silver platter" in Feb of 2004 I think every Dem candidate was beating Bush in the polls, every single one

People didn't care who the democrat was, just as long as the politician's name wasn't Bush

2004 was different, we didn't have the economic problems we have now, the republican nominee didn't go on record saying he doesn't know much about the economy and a sitting President who is oblivious to gas prices.

But yea it was the Dems to lose and they, well, lost...shitty party, sorry

If it wasn't someone as battle hardened as Hillary, they'd never pass the "toughness" test, but if they are veterans, they are mocked as too partisan

She is not battle hardened, her hubby cheated on her and most of attacks were on Bill not her. Don't confuse arrogance for toughness - arrogance can be manipulated

America is racist and sexist, and Democrats know it, and they really want to win so they're trying to play this out longer to see who can win the gamble

Our politics make is so - most people are not, I give America much more credit than you do

[Thorgrim]

Filegate, Vince Foster, Healthcare, she was even drug into White Water and many of the "Bill" scandals, the only one she was completely spared of were the cheating ones, and even then she was labeled as some sort of evil woman for forgiving her husband

Strangely enough there is no fierce criticism for Larry Craig's wife or David Vitter's wife to divorce them...even though they are both forced to show up during official functions while everyone in the room knows they are women who were cheated on...

[RMNIXON]

Originally Posted by JaJae

I have no sorrow, nor will I rejoice over this story. I really don't care about what happens to DailyKos whether they go pro-Hillary or pro-Obama. However, what I do find very interesting and ironic is how the most famous, popular, and active liberal blog in the world has had a massive loss in members due to an inherent intolerance of political views.

[RMNIXON]

Originally Posted by David Octavius

This election was handed to them on a silver platter - an economy getting worse under the watch of an unpopular opposition party President, a war that is going sideways in Iraq for some time now and increasing oil prices. What more do the Democrats want?

Well, it looks like they want to play Fight Club with each other and it has nothing to do with issues.

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Wherever you look for stories though...like the politico, realclearpolitics, heck even msnbc/cnn/etc...the anti-hillary stories (which make up about 90% of political stories these days) are almost always breaking diaries from dailykos

the internet, talk radio, cable media...have all been taking their cues from DailyKos

You have always been very proud of DailyKos and have mentioned them many, many times here. How do you feel that so many DK people have jumped into the Obama bandwagon left you hanging? Or do you not feel that way?

[hsmith]

Did anyone really doubt she would do whatever it takes to become President? I mean really, people think she is running to lead, but she is running to BE the President. She doesn't care about people, she wants to be the leader of the most powerful country in history. No if ands or butts.

If you think otherwise, well,

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

You have always been very proud of DailyKos and have mentioned them many, many times here. How do you feel that so many DK people have jumped into the Obama bandwagon left you hanging? Or do you not feel that way?

They have weighed their options, and are willing to make a political...political gamble I cannot make

Primaries are very heated for Democrats...Edwards was actually the first choice for them, Obama was recieving very low support at several key points even on Dkos, however things changed, arguments hardened and after a year of debate, people are sick of talking about "Obama versus Clinton" and Obama fans have developed a supermajority, many of the Clinton supporters simply don't post on the issue

I've found the whole thing more amusing than anything, for the past several months I've seen "indepedents" or "reform party" people here basically cut and paste diaries about Obama/Hillary on here from the most left-wing posters on DailyKos

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by hsmith

Did anyone really doubt she would do whatever it takes to become President? I mean really, people think she is running to lead, but she is running to BE the President. She doesn't care about people, she wants to be the leader of the most powerful country in history. No if ands or butts.

If you think otherwise, well,

All Ron Paul cared about was suckering people in to donating millions of dollars so he could promote himself and work his way into a footnmote of history, now he has a nice warchest he doesn't have to worry about fundraising ever again

If anyone thought he really cared about pushing the libertarian message, he'd have run third party at people who think he cares about America at all

[hsmith]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

All Ron Paul cared about was suckering people in to donating millions of dollars so he could promote himself and work his way into a footnmote of history, now he has a nice warchest he doesn't have to worry about fundraising ever again

If anyone thought he really cared about pushing the libertarian message, he'd have run third party at people who think he cares about America at all

How did he sucker people in when his campaign had nothing to do with the fund raising drives



And how daft do you have to be to think a third party run is even possible. He tried once and knows the system. Hi, lets get back to reality

I find it amazing you still have to bring up Ron Paul

Pathetic, really.

[hsmith]

It just proves how stupid people are that they debate the money issue. How many millions were lost on every other candidate that ran? Yet, we don't see that as a "waste" for them. Just another painfully childish fallacy that has nothing to do with the issue.