how is this fair?

[Thorgrim]

Elect Democrats

[Ardentfrost]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Elect Democrats

That's not a solution at all.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

That's not a solution at all.

It's not your solution, which would be to elect Ron Paul and a Congress full of his clones

[Ardentfrost]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

It's not your solution, which would be to elect Ron Paul and a Congress full of his clones

This has nothing to do with Ron Paul or elections. Whoever is president, democrat, republican, aliens, whatever... You always go back to that when you have nothing to say.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

This has nothing to do with Ron Paul or elections. Whoever is president, democrat, republican, aliens, whatever... You always go back to that when you have nothing to say.

You really think an all out libertarian government could solve this?

[hsmith]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Elect Democrats

Do you honestly think there is one difference between the two major parties?

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by hsmith

Do you honestly think there is one difference between the two major parties?

I think Sen. Feingold and Sen. Inhofe are the exact same

[Ardentfrost]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

You really think an all out libertarian government could solve this?

Again, it's not about libertarians or democrats or anything like that. It's about identifying problems (particularly the roots of problems) and fixing them. Is the root of the problem that people are electing republicans? If that's what you're saying, 20 of the past 28 years must have really pissed you off.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

Again, it's not about libertarians or democrats or anything like that. It's about identifying problems (particularly the roots of problems) and fixing them. Is the root of the problem that people are electing republicans? If that's what you're saying, 20 of the past 28 years must have really pissed you off.

Wow, so a complete libertarian government couldn't solve this

yet another reason not to vote for them

[Ardentfrost]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Wow, so a complete libertarian government couldn't solve this

yet another reason not to vote for them

I don't even know what you're talking about. I fail to see why you bring libertarianism into every conversation.

[lew]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

GOP Iraq War plus GOP lack of regulation are the causes of our economic problems

Too bad the Democrats also wanted the War and still want it.



Woops, there goes your usual GOP is evil bullshit answer right out the window.

[lew]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

You really think an all out libertarian government could solve this?

Yup.



Martin Van Buren solved the greatest Depression this country had ever seen up to that time with free market solutions - and got over the Depression sooner and better than Hoover's and FDR's 'solutions.'

[Thorgrim]

Arden disagrees, he thinks libertarians couldn't solve it

[Thorgrim]

Also, the vote was to authorize the president to meaningfully threaten war to get UN inspections, he got the inspections and went to war anyway, violating what the Democrats wanted...it was 100% GOP war

[lew]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Also, the vote was to authorize the president to meaningfully threaten war to get UN inspections, he got the inspections and went to war anyway, violating what the Democrats wanted...it was 100% GOP war

No, it was 100% GOP and Democrat war. The Dems had been wanting to go to war since Clinton. The GOP just pursued Clinton's intentions.

[lew]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Arden disagrees, he thinks libertarians couldn't solve it

Do you even honestly want to discuss the issue or are you content with just trolling?

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by lew

No, it was 100% GOP and Democrat war. The Dems had been wanting to go to war since Clinton. The GOP just pursued Clinton's intentions.

if they wanted to go for war, how come the Democrats told Bush to give the inspectors time to find weapons (which they wouldn't have)?

If you take the Democrats who voted against the war (a majority in the house, close in the senate) and then add those who wanted more inspections, you have a clear majority and only conservative blue dog democrats...the kind that are pro-life/proBushTaxCuts/socially conservative...remain

You want to sit there and say that social and economic conservatism is what the Democratic Party is about...well you couldn't because you've been calling them wacko-leftists forever

[Ardentfrost]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Arden disagrees, he thinks libertarians couldn't solve it

lol, wtf?!

If that hadn't made me laugh out loud, I'd probably give my second ever bad rep for that post.

[Ardentfrost]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

if they wanted to go for war, how come the Democrats told Bush to give the inspectors time to find weapons (which they wouldn't have)?

If you take the Democrats who voted against the war (a majority in the house, close in the senate) and then add those who wanted more inspections, you have a clear majority and only conservative blue dog democrats...the kind that are pro-life/proBushTaxCuts/socially conservative...remain

You want to sit there and say that social and economic conservatism is what the Democratic Party is about...well you couldn't because you've been calling them wacko-leftists forever

So, they were for the war before they were against the war...

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

lol, wtf?!

If that hadn't made me laugh out loud, I'd probably give my second ever bad rep for that post.

Originally Posted by Thorgrim
You really think an all out libertarian government could solve this?
Again, it's not about libertarians or democrats or anything like that.