McCain takes the lead over Clinton and Obama in the national polls

kinggovernor · 03-20-2008, 01:12 PM

RealClearPolitics - Polls

I think this goes to show that Americans don't respond positively to negative campaigning. McCain does not have to worry about staying on the front page he can sit back and watch both democrats destroy each other.

JaJae · 03-20-2008, 01:23 PM

Rasmussen Reports™: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election.

McCain 51% Clinton 41%
McCain 49% Obama 42%

The Dems are throwing it away.

Ardentfrost · 03-20-2008, 01:34 PM

I dunno... looking at the numbers, some of the ones that have McCain winning have him winning by a relatively large margin (like, 8%). That seems unrealistic considering how close the rest are. And with one of the 6 advantages being that much, his overall is like .8% and 1%?

Although, I will say I expect it to get better and better for McCain the longer the Dems drag out this whole "choosing a candidate" thing. He's basically unopposed at this point.

WickedLou9 · 03-20-2008, 02:11 PM

I think all of this polling data will show a sharp shift once a Democratic candidate has been selected.

Ardentfrost · 03-20-2008, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by WickedLou9

I think all of this polling data will show a sharp shift once a Democratic candidate has been selected.

If they don't pick til August, they'll have a lot of ground to make up in 3 short months

WickedLou9 · 03-20-2008, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

If they don't pick til August, they'll have a lot of ground to make up in 3 short months

I think we will probably have a candidate before the end of May. Even if it went till August, 3 months is actually a long time if the candidates campaign constantly. The democrat will also have the benefit of already having campaigned heavily in every state, where McCain didn't have to.

RMNIXON · 03-20-2008, 06:23 PM

What the polls have shown is that the independents who are leaving Obama are going to McCain and not Clinton!

This is not good news for either Democrat.

Another problem is that Hillary can now make the claim to Super Delegates that she is the better candidate to beat McCain now that Obama's General Election numbers are falling. He needs to reverse this trend before the convention.

RMNIXON · 03-20-2008, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by WickedLou9

I think we will probably have a candidate before the end of May. Even if it went till August, 3 months is actually a long time if the candidates campaign constantly. The democrat will also have the benefit of already having campaigned heavily in every state, where McCain didn't have to.

McCain is improving in Ohio and Pennsylvania with general election numbers I have heard.

The Punch and Judy show is not helping!

motivez · 03-23-2008, 10:40 AM

I don't put much stock in national polls this far out

northhunter · 03-23-2008, 09:54 PM

I would say the Punch and Judy show is helping a lot! Just not helping Punch or Judy very much, but helping McCain just fine!

kinggovernor · 03-24-2008, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by motivez

I don't put much stock in national polls this far out

I know but it shows that the Obama train has hit it's first snag

WickedLou9 · 03-24-2008, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

McCain is improving in Ohio and Pennsylvania with general election numbers I have heard.

The Punch and Judy show is not helping!

Thats because he gets to sit out of the discourse. People are tired of seeing Clinton and Obama fight it out. Onca McCain gets back into it and you see Obama(just my prediction) standing up there debating with McCain, it will shift fast.

Linzyhop · 03-24-2008, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by WickedLou9

Thats because he gets to sit out of the discourse. People are tired of seeing Clinton and Obama fight it out. Onca McCain gets back into it and you see Obama(just my prediction) standing up there debating with McCain, it will shift fast.

more for McCain you mean? since obama is all sunshine and lollipops out of his ass. i think when he gets hit with hard questions and needs to give actual plans and not generalizations... shit will start to hit the fan.

Thorgrim · 03-24-2008, 05:10 PM

Old experienced man with military experience faces a young charisamatic change advocate who isn't a stickler on specifics

It played very well for us in 1992, it'll only play better this time...for same reason...neither Bush I nor McCain have any "big plan" for america, or real ideas...infact Obama has more detailed plans that hit it off with the American People than Bill Clinton ever did

RMNIXON · 03-24-2008, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

more for McCain you mean? since obama is all sunshine and lollipops out of his ass. i think when he gets hit with hard questions and needs to give actual plans and not generalizations... shit will start to hit the fan.

Rove already leaked the McCain strategy. Go after him on experiance and the issues. Obama's record certainly makes McCain look at lot more conservative. He will not be stuck in the same position as Hillary who cannot make issues a big deal unless she want to risk the offense of left-leaning Democrats. Some of whom already hate her guts! And I have heard the Obama record on bipartisanship is not anywhere near as good as McCain's.

Linzyhop · 03-25-2008, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Old experienced man with military experience faces a young charisamatic change advocate who isn't a stickler on specifics

It played very well for us in 1992, it'll only play better this time...for same reason...neither Bush I nor McCain have any "big plan" for america, or real ideas...infact Obama has more detailed plans that hit it off with the American People than Bill Clinton ever did

yeah, um i'm not worried.

RMNIXON · 03-25-2008, 02:49 PM

Todays Numbers:

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

Tuesday, March 25, 2008

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows Looking ahead to the General Election in November, John McCain continues to lead both potential Democratic opponents. McCain leads Barack Obama 50% to 41% and Hillary Clinton 48% to 43%.

McCain is viewed favorably by 55% of voters nationwide and unfavorably by 42%. Obama’s reviews are 46% favorable and 52% unfavorable. For Clinton, those numbers are 45% favorable, 52% unfavorable.

Rasmussen Reports™: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election.

If this keeps up for long we may have to call it the McCain Surge!

WickedLou9 · 03-25-2008, 04:27 PM

I still say none of this matters. Not until we have a clear democratic candidate. I just don't see this country electing another republican, not even McCain. As soon as the dems turn thier focus to the presidential race, it will turn into a contest between "change" and " 100 more years in Iraq". That will be what we hear from this campaign and it will be very effective. People don't want more of what we had for the past 8 years. Every single poll will overwhelmingly tell you that. The opinion polls you see out now reflect peoples fatigue with the democratic party's struggle to choose thier candidate. Once one is chosen you will see a big difference. So far no one is attacking McCain. No one is campagning against him. All he has to do is sit there and smile. Of course he will have better polling numbers.
Mark my words

Linzyhop · 03-25-2008, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by WickedLou9

I still say none of this matters. Not until we have a clear democratic candidate. I just don't see this country electing another republican, not even McCain. As soon as the dems turn thier focus to the presidential race, it will turn into a contest between "change" and " 100 more years in Iraq". That will be what we hear from this campaign and it will be very effective. People don't want more of what we had for the past 8 years. Every single poll will overwhelmingly tell you that. The opinion polls you see out now reflect peoples fatigue with the democratic party's struggle to choose thier candidate. Once one is chosen you will see a big difference. So far no one is attacking McCain. No one is campagning against him. All he has to do is sit there and smile. Of course he will have better polling numbers.
Mark my words

um as a democrat, maybe you don't see the bad idea part of having a democratic controlled congress with a democrat in office?

talk about doing a 180 and getting ourselves in deep shit. McCain is the best thing that can happen in my opinion. a liberal republican.

RMNIXON · 03-25-2008, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by Linzyhop

McCain is the best thing that can happen in my opinion. a liberal republican.

You mean Moderate don't you Linzy?

Don't put me off my lunch!