Ron Paul rips off supporters for millions of dollars (FEC Report)

[lew]

I'm a member on RPF and have said negative things about Paul and the Campaign. I wasn't censored.


So, as usual, you're full of shit.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Tessy

That's what you've said in every one of your attacks and they started like 4 or
6 months ago. Me thinks I smell something pretty fishy. Yep, if it looks like a
fish, smells like a fish and acts like a fish then it's a fish for sure.

I still think you need professional help. Obsessions like yours are not healthy!
I don't care if you give me negative rep points, I'm serious, you need to healing!

Lot's of people devote time to politics, its called a civic hobby

I know I know, all the elections are rigged, we're being controlled by the outside, and everyone who doesn't buy into it needs serious help

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by lew

I'm a member on RPF and have said negative things about Paul and the Campaign. I wasn't censored.


So, as usual, you're full of shit.

Fallacy: Biased Sample

[lew]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Fallacy: Biased Sample

Yup, you're biased. We all know it. You're the most biased partisan user on this entire board. We get it.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by lew

Yup, you're biased. We all know it. You're the most biased partisan user on this entire board. We get it.

You are saying this invalidates RP's FEC Report?

[lew]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

You are saying this invalidates RP's FEC Report?

What are we talking about again? You keep changing the subject so fast I'm getting dizzy.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by lew

What are we talking about again? You keep changing the subject so fast I'm getting dizzy.

On pages 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 I was talking about how the FEC has shown Ron Paul has over $5 million that is not being spent to advance the Ron Paul message...what his donors gave for...

[motivez]

There's far too many posts in this thread that break the rules, or are on the line.. infractions will be handed out for people who've broken them, anyone who continues after this will be thread banned along with an additional infraction

Seriously, this isn't a free for all. Keep it respectful and on the topic and not about other posters. The rules are linked at the top of the forum for everyone to read, so none of you have any excuse.

[lew]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

On pages 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 I was talking about how the FEC has shown Ron Paul has over $5 million that is not being spent to advance the Ron Paul message...what his donors gave for...

And you talked about how Paul ripped off supporters - which you've been proven wrong about.


And you talked about how there were no people running for Congress with views similar to Paul - which you've been proven wrong about.


And then you rambled on about some other things which you were wrong about it. So, why keep posting in this thread?

[Tessy]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Lot's of people devote time to politics, its called a civic hobby

I know I know, all the elections are rigged, we're being controlled by the outside, and everyone who doesn't buy into it needs serious help

No... only 80%... not all.

And I wasn't saying that you need help sarcastically. I was serious. It looks
dangerous from here. Really. I'll probably get another infraction for saying
it but I don't care. If it helps you it's worth it. Respectfully I assure you!

[Thorgrim]

Being ripped off is subjective, as shown in this very thread, some people think it would have been find if he spent the money to buy a new car

People who I observed donate their money were cautious and frugal people, wanted to be sure there money went for a good cause, I have seen many comments about people happy $5 million is sitting in the bank, however I have heard people complain about it, you say it's not on heavily censored boards...but that doesn't mean it does not exist

I claim it does, you make a vague claim that implies everyone is just thrilled about the $5 million...absolutely no one feels ripped off, I very much doubt that...and to try to say it's been "proven wrong...that ron paul ripped off supporters" is just a subjective claim that can not be said to have any sort of objective factual basis

In short, you didn't and have no proved it

On Congress, I said I misspoke, I was talking about where there will be a serious election

If some crazy "let's invade Iran" Republican threw his name into the running against Charlie Rangel...and also Nancy Pelosi...I would not say "People for invading Iran are running campaigns and trying to unseat Democrats" because although technically true, it gives off an impressive that is blatantly false...everyone knows Rangel and Pelosi's districts are so gerrymandered they are literally impossible to unseat, let alone on some ideas completely alien to the voters

Likewise, those running against gerrymandered seats, or those who are the Mike Gravels of the GOP primary...I do not consider "running"...I should have changed it...yes the Democratic Nomination is not between Hillary and Obama, but Mike Gravel is still running...yes there are some people who have created webpages, some have even collected money, but there are no serious Ron Paul-like candidates

[Tessy]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Being ripped off is subjective, as shown in this very thread, some people think it would have been find if he spent the money to buy a new car

Cars are fine. Cars are rented and bought from every high dollar campaign
fund. It's pretty typical! Umm, it's called transportation. Plane tickets, planes,
and train tickets too. Letting an obsessive hatred obscure vision is a symptom.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Tessy

Cars are fine. Cars are rented and bought from every high dollar campaign
fund. It's pretty typical! Umm, it's called transportation. Plane tickets, planes,
and train tickets too. Letting an obsessive hatred obscure vision is a symptom.

So, you're saying it's typical for people like Fred Thompson to buy a new car with campaign cash after announcing their campaign was over...and anyone who doesn't think like that is unbalanced?

[lew]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Being ripped off is subjective, as shown in this very thread, some people think it would have been find if he spent the money to buy a new car

People who I observed donate their money were cautious and frugal people, wanted to be sure there money went for a good cause, I have seen many comments about people happy $5 million is sitting in the bank, however I have heard people complain about it, you say it's not on heavily censored boards...but that doesn't mean it does not exist

I claim it does, you make a vague claim that implies everyone is just thrilled about the $5 million...absolutely no one feels ripped off, I very much doubt that...and to try to say it's been "proven wrong...that ron paul ripped off supporters" is just a subjective claim that can not be said to have any sort of objective factual basis

In short, you didn't and have no proved it

On Congress, I said I misspoke, I was talking about where there will be a serious election

If some crazy "let's invade Iran" Republican threw his name into the running against Charlie Rangel...and also Nancy Pelosi...I would not say "People for invading Iran are running campaigns and trying to unseat Democrats" because although technically true, it gives off an impressive that is blatantly false...everyone knows Rangel and Pelosi's districts are so gerrymandered they are literally impossible to unseat, let alone on some ideas completely alien to the voters

Likewise, those running against gerrymandered seats, or those who are the Mike Gravels of the GOP primary...I do not consider "running"...I should have changed it...yes the Democratic Nomination is not between Hillary and Obama, but Mike Gravel is still running...yes there are some people who have created webpages, some have even collected money, but there are no serious Ron Paul-like candidates

And once again, you have NO IDEA what you are talking about.


Murray Sabrin is polling fairly well against the Democrat incumbent in NJ.


Rasmussen Reports™: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by lew

And once again, you have NO IDEA what you are talking about.


Murray Sabrin is polling fairly well against the Democrat incumbent in NJ.


Rasmussen Reports™: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election.

I think I follow the Senate quite closely...polling the worst out of the GOP line-up...and only getting 31%...in New Jersey, against an old school Democrat...is laughable...

As par for New Jersey, he gets lower than 40% approval, they generally disliked their politicians

However, everyone knows this...which is why every single place has it listed as a "solid/safe" seat...even GOP pollsters see it that way
The Rothenberg Political Report: 2008 Senate Ratings


NJ has been the race everyone of quality has refused to run in because they know they'd be sheep for the slaughter...much like the other "races" you listed...

Every Democrat is crossing their fingers the GOP invests in this seat, mostly because they won't have any other options...after the filing deadline the week, Tim Johnson might have no competition...meaning LA would be the only senate seat in the entire country they were trying to win from the Democrats...they might be smart and dump it all on LA (please no!) or they might be stupid and throw money at IA, NJ, MA and MT (please yes!)

[lew]

It is simply amazing how you continue to ignore all evidence of anything except that which you have already decided upon.

Ghosthunter would be proud.

[Tessy]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

So, you're saying it's typical for people like Fred Thompson to buy a new car with campaign cash after announcing their campaign was over...and anyone who doesn't think like that is unbalanced?

Huh? Ron Paul's campaign isn't over. How is this a relative question?

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by lew

It is simply amazing how you continue to ignore all evidence of anything except that which you have already decided upon.

Ghosthunter would be proud.

I don't see any evidence

The only "facts" I saw, were to call me out on a mistake in phrases when I was typing

And those I briefly glanced over consisted of people expected to BOTH lose their GOP primary and if they by some miracle would win, would be facing an incumbent Democrat who wins 65% and barely campaigns

You quick latched on to NJ, where someone might pull out a primary win because their opponent had a stroke...a real victory for RP Republicans...anyway, even if they pulled that upset, the GOP and every political analyst from left to right has categorized this race as completely safe

I'd really like to put Wyoming up, even as just a post on here, as a race the Democrats have a good shot at pulling off, but I'm not going to lie or ignore the facts on the ground

[hsmith]

Originally Posted by Tessy

Huh? Ron Paul's campaign isn't over. How is this a relative question?

and when did Ron Paul buy a car with the cash