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03-26-2008, 02:10 PM
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| Governments should fear their people  Paleolibertarian 
| I've never seen this before, thought it was pretty good  | ||||
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03-26-2008, 02:20 PM
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| Dirty Liberal  Democrat South Jersey
| Who came up with that? | ||||
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03-26-2008, 02:25 PM
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| Governments should fear their people Paleolibertarian
| 4chan I think | ||||
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03-26-2008, 02:32 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est  Pragmatist Greensboro, NC
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03-26-2008, 03:39 PM
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| America Fuck Yea Election Moderator  Republican In Name Only
| I had a libertarian argue in a class that there should not be government supported fire or police departments. Night watchmen and community involvement would be enough. | ||||
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03-26-2008, 03:40 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator  Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by kinggovernor Perhaps a charity funded rainbow machine? 
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03-26-2008, 03:55 PM
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| Perpetual Noob Independent
| Originally Posted by kinggovernor the person probably has never lived anywhere besides a gated community or a college town/campus
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03-26-2008, 04:24 PM
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| Dirty Liberal Democrat South Jersey
| Originally Posted by kinggovernor What a moron.
I'd like to see a community watch go up against a well funded gang of drug dealers. Our country would get taken over by warlords. | ||||
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03-26-2008, 04:25 PM
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| Banned  Libertarian Party DFW
| Originally Posted by kinggovernor that's the kind of libertarian that gives us realistic libertarians a bad name...
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03-26-2008, 04:29 PM
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| Governments should fear their people Paleolibertarian
| Originally Posted by kinggovernor
While not a pressing issue for me at all, I would prefer private fire / police departments. | ||||
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03-26-2008, 04:29 PM
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| Governments should fear their people Paleolibertarian
| Originally Posted by Publius
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03-26-2008, 04:31 PM
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| Governments should fear their people Paleolibertarian
| Originally Posted by WickedLou9
Gangs of drug dealers (as commonly understood) wouldn't exist in that type of society - since drugs would be legal. You cannot take anarcho-capitalist ideas by themselves and put them in a contemporary statist setting. It must all be anarcho-capitalist or it won't work. | ||||
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03-26-2008, 04:34 PM
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| Dirty Liberal Democrat South Jersey
| Originally Posted by lew There are war lords even in places with no government to speak of. These war lords entire people to support them with bribes and such and then they enforce thier rule with violence. Someone could easily take over a community, a town, a state, this way. There would be no stability. Governments would change all the time, businesses would never be able to plan for the future because they would never know who would be ruling over them. Society needs stability and that means centralized government.
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03-26-2008, 04:36 PM
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| Governments should fear their people Paleolibertarian
| Originally Posted by WickedLou9
The War Lords you speak of are government. | ||||
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03-26-2008, 04:38 PM
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| Banned Libertarian Party DFW
| Originally Posted by lew it's great in theory, but applying it in practice is a whole different ballgame. | ||||
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03-26-2008, 04:42 PM
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| Banned  Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| Originally Posted by lew There will always be a black market, and then there will always be gangs
Some guys will always want things you simply cannot offer in a free society, like...they don't want sex, they want to rape someone, a gang could offer that, a free society could not Loan-sharking...the list goes on forever | ||||
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03-26-2008, 04:48 PM
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| Governments should fear their people Paleolibertarian
| Originally Posted by Thorgrim
And that's why I don't go around blowing up federal buildings. Besides, anarcho-capitalism believes in law, rules, and order. It's just private law, rules, and order. Like you said, there simply cannot exist 100% "freedom" in a civilized society. We just think you have can the freedom to do what you want as long as you do not directly harm another. | ||||
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03-26-2008, 06:46 PM
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| Political Genius  Republican Yorba Linda Ca.
| Originally Posted by Publius
__________________ Sock It To Me!  "Bureaucracy is a Parasite that Preys on Free Thought and Suffocates Free Spirit!" - Douglas Adams | ||||
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03-26-2008, 08:41 PM
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| Dirty Liberal Democrat South Jersey
| Originally Posted by lew Uhhh. Except we get to elect the people that we want.
 You don't elect a warlord. they take power by force and enforce thier own will on you for thier benefit, not the benfit of society. | ||||
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03-26-2008, 09:12 PM
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| Banned Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| Originally Posted by lew If you have enough money in certain countries, you can have 100% freedom, you literally can have whatever you want
but anyway, as lou keeps pointing out, there is no anarcho-capitalist society that would not fall to warlordism within a few years | ||||
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