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Old 03-29-2008, 01:58 AM   #1
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Old Solar Cycle Returns


Sunspot counts vs. year: 2008 is a low point in the solar cycle. Smoothed curves are predictions of future activity.
Solar Cycle 23, how can we miss you if you won't go away? Barely three months after forecasters announced the beginning of new Solar Cycle 24, old Solar Cycle 23 has returned. Actually, it never left. Read on.

"This week, three big sunspots appeared and they are all old cycle spots," says NASA solar physicist David Hathaway. "We know this because of their magnetic polarity."

Earlier today, the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) made a magnetic map of the sun.

It shows the north and south magnetic poles of the three sunspots. All are oriented according to the patterns of Solar Cycle 23. Cycle 24 spots would be reversed.

What's going on? Hathaway explains: "We have two solar cycles in progress at the same time. Solar Cycle 24 has begun (the first new-cycle spot appeared in January 2008), but Solar Cycle 23 has not ended."

Strange as it sounds, this is perfectly normal. Around the time of solar minimum--i.e., now--old-cycle spots and new-cycle spots frequently intermingle. Eventually Cycle 23 will fade to zero, giving way in full to Solar Cycle 24, but not yet.

Meanwhile, on March 25th, sunspot 989, the smallest of the three sunspots, unleashed an M2-class solar flare. Flares are measured on a "Richter scale" ranging from A-class (puny) to X-class (powerful). M-class flares are of medium intensity. This one hurled a coronal mass ejection or "CME" into space, but the billion-ton cloud missed Earth.

While the CME was still plowing through the sun's atmosphere, amateur radio astronomer Thomas Ashcraft heard "a heaving sound" coming from the loudspeaker of his 21 MHz shortwave receiver in New Mexico: listen. It was a Type II solar radio burst generated by shock waves at the leading edge of the CME. A thousand miles away in Virginia, David Thomas recorded the same emissions on a chart recorder he connected to his 20 MHz ham rig. "What a pleasant surprise," says Thomas.

We could get more of this kind of activity in the next 7 to 10 days. It will take about that long for the sunspots to cross the face of the sun. The sun's rotation is turning the spots toward Earth, which means the next CME, if there is one, might not miss. CME strikes do no physical harm to Earth but they can cause Northern Lights, satellite glitches and, in extreme cases, power outages.

The real significance of these spots is what they say about the solar cycle, says Hathaway. "Solar Cycle 24 has begun, but we won't be through solar minimum until the number of Cycle 24 spots rises above the declining number of Cycle 23 spots." Based on this latest spate of "old" activity, he thinks the next Solar Max probably won't arrive until 2012.

Source: by Dr. Tony Phillips, Science@NASA
Source: PhysOrg.com: latest science and technology news
 
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:28 PM   #2
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Interesting, I didn't realize we were in a low point in solar activity
 
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Old 03-29-2008, 01:02 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
Interesting, I didn't realize we were in a low point in solar activity
Why has the earth been warming, for the past 5 years if the suns output has been decreasing? does that mean when the output starts to go up again that we are going to be living in a much hotter climate?
 
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Old 03-29-2008, 01:31 PM   #4
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but remember it hasn't warmed since '98, and the volcanoes, maybe they are causing this dual cycle?
 
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:15 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by WickedLou9 View Post
Why has the earth been warming, for the past 5 years if the suns output has been decreasing? does that mean when the output starts to go up again that we are going to be living in a much hotter climate?
The fact that the solar cycles have been relatively constant (up and down) for the past few decades precludes the notion that current solar activity is responsible for recent warming trends worldwide. We are talking about variations of .1% of solar activity of 2k years. Scientists say this, but at the same time correlation can be drawn between the rise in greenhouse gasses in recent decades and the rise in temperatures. Let’s stop skirting the issue as a country and deal with our problem.
 
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