Environmentalism is an alternative reality

[7960]

I can't think of a better example off the top of my head, but it really fucks kids up when the teacher does shit like this:

student1: abortion stops a beating heart
teacher (to stu1): but outlawing abortion means the govt has control of a woman's body
student2: yeah, keep your laws off my body!
teacher (to stu2): Why should a woman have the right to kill a unique and independent life?

The teacher defended both sides......it seriously fucks with kids' heads when they think the teacher supports something only to later find out it was just a question, not a show of support.

[Ardentfrost]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Arden, what sucks is that you'll have a "left of center" position, but like 10 different degrees of it...from the marxist, to the socialist, to the liberal, to the moderate Gore supporter, to the pro-NRA democrat, etc etc...and they'd all have a different opinion

They were all shut out, and it was "ok let's hear a left opinion, okay now lets hear the republican"...so basically no matter what, the GOP guy got to be heard, whether he was moderate or radical, but many left-of-center people weren't able to add their input because "we can't get too off-track...we have to finish this material" which is true...but I still always thought...unfair because I always wanted to hear more from the different shades of left-of-center people

That seems weird then. Why would the prof be CALLING for a Republican opinion? In classes I've been in (the few that were setup with material that garnered descent and staged in a way that promoted discussion) it just went by who raised their hand. If the guy was Republican or Democrat didn't matter, what mattered is that they had something to add to the conversation. You'd think one guy adding to the conversation intelligently would cause people with similar ideas to feel represented and have little to nothing more to add. If the prof kept going back to the SAME guy b/c he was the only one representing the Republican side of an argument, then the prof isn't being fair in how he allows people to speak.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by A_C_E

Graduate school in the humanities is nothing more than a way for people who can't find jobs with their semi-useless degrees to still manage to make decent money somehow

For people who are intelligent enough to realize that 4 years of university studies is not enough academic exposure, that countless fields await...I only wish I had more lifetimes so I could get a PhD in many different fields

Business on the other hand...is full of people whose life consists of adderall and cramming for exams as to completely miss the point of a university...it's not a trade school...not to mention the extreme binge drinking and cocaine use that usually occured during their final internships

This elevates them to the level where they consistently whine to me about how much they hate every waking moment their ibanking jobs and fantasize about putting a gun in their mouth

Horrible 4 years+extreme stress+depression+anxiety disorders=not for me

I'll stick with marrying a Medical Doctor, as we've known each other since we were both 13, and using my advanced degrees to make sarcastic internet posts and become a professional gamer/father...and if the mood strikes me, I may run for political office or become a party insider

/thread

[Publius]

Originally Posted by 7960

I can't think of a better example off the top of my head, but it really fucks kids up when the teacher does shit like this:

student1: abortion stops a beating heart
teacher (to stu1): but outlawing abortion means the govt has control of a woman's body
student2: yeah, keep your laws off my body!
teacher (to stu2): Why should a woman have the right to kill a unique and independent life?

The teacher defended both sides......it seriously fucks with kids' heads when they think the teacher supports something only to later find out it was just a question, not a show of support.

This is the best way to teach thinking skills, imo, because it creates discussion by both sides and forces both sides to think critically about their own position while at the same time not revealing the teacher's personal views.

It can be hard to pull off though, I've only really ever had one teacher that could do it consistently.

[A_C_E]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

For people who are intelligent enough to realize that 4 years of university studies is not enough academic exposure, that countless fields await...I only wish I had more lifetimes so I could get a PhD in many different fields

Business on the other hand...is full of people whose life consists of adderall and cramming for exams as to completely miss the point of a university...it's not a trade school...not to mention the extreme binge drinking and cocaine use that usually occured during their final internships

This elevates them to the level where they consistently whine to me about how much they hate every waking moment their ibanking jobs and fantasize about putting a gun in their mouth

Horrible 4 years+extreme stress+depression+anxiety disorders=not for me

I'll stick with marrying a Medical Doctor, as we've known each other since we were both 13, and using my advanced degrees to make sarcastic internet posts and become a professional gamer/father...and if the mood strikes me, I may run for political office or become a party insider

/thread

You sound like one of those bitter, self-hating PPE majors who constructs, in your mind, a monumental hate of Wharton and everything it stands for, as a defense mechanism to reconcile with yourself the fact that your GPA was, and will never be, high enough to transfer in.

I used to be one of those people too

edit: The misallocation of resources, the limited jobs open to you when you take a lot of the same classes, the alumni network, and the general "we're better and wealthier than you" attitude makes it an easy target to despise

[Phantom]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I'll stick with marrying a Medical Doctor, as we've known each other since we were both 13, and using my advanced degrees to make sarcastic internet posts and become a professional gamer/father...and if the mood strikes me, I may run for political office or become a party insider

You are the perfect liberal!

Just watch out for government health care. If they take over, doctors won't be so well compensated and you might have to get a job that pays.

[A_C_E]

Originally Posted by Phantom

You are the perfect liberal!

Just watch out for government health care. If they take over, doctors won't be so well compensated and you might have to get a job that pays.

Is it wrong that I lose respect for people who are content to be stay-at-home moms and dads?

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by A_C_E

Is it wrong that I lose respect for people who are content to be stay-at-home moms and dads?

typical prep school elitism

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by A_C_E

Is it wrong that I lose respect for people who are content to be stay-at-home moms and dads?

[A_C_E]

Originally Posted by Scrum

I can't help it. I just don't see homemaking as a productive use of one's time in modern society. In my mind, it shows no ambition and little exercise of one's autonomy in a free state. You can do anything that you want, yet you choose to stay at home with the children all day long? I just can't understand it.

Again, this is my own personal opinion that I hold for any number of reasons. I do not speak for anyone else.

[A_C_E]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

typical prep school elitism

Along with being raised by a single mom, that may be.

You must have gone to public school

[Phantom]

Originally Posted by A_C_E

I can't help it. I just don't see homemaking as a productive use of one's time in modern society. In my mind, it shows no ambition and little exercise of one's autonomy in a free state. You can do anything that you want, yet you choose to stay at home with the children all day long? I just can't understand it.

Again, this is my own personal opinion that I hold for any number of reasons. I do not speak for anyone else.

I think it's a noble choice to stay at home and forgo wages if the choice is made out of a desire to raise good kids rather than laziness. If the choice is made out of laziness, then ya I tend to agree with you.

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by A_C_E

Along with being raised by a single mom, that may be.

You must have gone to public school

The Buffalo News: City & Region: Grand Island student, 16, charged with hacking into school computers

I am glad I didn't go to Joes or Canisius

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by A_C_E

I can't help it. I just don't see homemaking as a productive use of one's time in modern society. In my mind, it shows no ambition and little exercise of one's autonomy in a free state. You can do anything that you want, yet you choose to stay at home with the children all day long? I just can't understand it.

Again, this is my own personal opinion that I hold for any number of reasons. I do not speak for anyone else.

and I think day care is a one of the reasons we have such screwed up kids these days.

[A_C_E]

This:

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

The Buffalo News: City & Region: Grand Island student, 16, charged with hacking into school computers

Along with this:

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

I am glad I didn't go to Joes or Canisius

I'm not really seeing the connection

[A_C_E]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

and I think day care is a one of the reasons we have such screwed up kids these days.

Define "screwed up"

And who chooses who stays home with the kids if one parent has to, in your conception?

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by A_C_E

This:Along with this:I'm not really seeing the connection

Just a funny link about my high school. I am glad that I didn't go to a private school, JUG is not for me

[A_C_E]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

Just a funny link about my high school. I am glad that I didn't go to a private school, JUG is not for me

JUG, lol. Oh, good times. I think I had like 18 units when I graduated. Most of my friends had none, but a few were well up into the hundreds

Either way it certainly served me well, so I don't really have anything to complain about.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by A_C_E

I can't help it. I just don't see homemaking as a productive use of one's time in modern society. In my mind, it shows no ambition and little exercise of one's autonomy in a free state. You can do anything that you want, yet you choose to stay at home with the children all day long? I just can't understand it.

Again, this is my own personal opinion that I hold for any number of reasons. I do not speak for anyone else.

I see it the opposite.
My ambition is to raise a child who doesn't feel like they are an accessory or some kind of burden. I want him in a stable environment where he knows he's loved.

I want to instill my values into him, not have some stranger teach him god knows what it for a fee.