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Old 04-15-2008, 11:14 AM   #21
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I didn't talk about blind obedience, in fact I specifically said it's doubtful that she was taught not to resist authority
 
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:33 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by A_C_E View Post
Two things, the first as a simple word of warning (to be taken at face value and nothing more):...a quote from the NY Times, CNBC, a local newspaper, etc. are often much more dependable....
I understand your intent and do not disagree.... but to imply that the NYT is a good source just made me giggle :0



2.) I doubt that this is a systematic problem. Once every four or five years we hear about a very inappropriate search popping up in a random school.....

I could have chosen my words better. I don't feel that the frequency of such occurrences is the problem. The problem is that a criminal suit was not pursued. The school is immune from the just legal response for the crime that took place.



At the same time, the girl's parents should have taught her that no one can make her undress without her permission. I both understand and assume that at 13 years old she is too young to understand her rights regarding school-zone searches (different than in privately owned property), but I would still hope mommy and daddy had told her she doesn't have to get naked for anyone.
Absolutely!

This could not have happened if the parents had taught the girl self respect. The parents are the ones who dropped the ball here, no doubt.

Full disclosure: For the record, I support the ability of school staff to search students' lockers if they suspect drug activity. The students should know that lockers aren't their property and anything they keep in them isn't protected. Not sure where I fall on bags/backpacks--One on hand, I want to say that students shouldn't be bringing any sort of contraband to school in the first place, and if they get caught, oh well. At the same time, backpacks are personal property, so idk.
We agree on much. It is silly to expect absolute privacy in someone else's domain. Personal effects should be protected against unreasonable searches.
 
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