And the GOP Congress already starts with the racism

[hsmith]

Oh, wait

[Thorgrim]

I'd really have a good laugh seeing some of these people calling the first 46 year old black man they saw in a suit "boy" and see how that conversation went

oh, and BTW, on context, he just got done calling him a "snake oil salesman" so yeah it wasn't in the nice way

at you guys talking yourself into thinking you can call 46 year old black men "boy" and for it not to be blatantly racist...in any part of the country

[Phantom]

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

Shit, in my experience, EVERYONE is boy in the South. HoA told my mom "Boy, you better mow your lawn."

Ok, not THAT bad, but seriously. Hasn't anyone ever watched King of the Hill? lol. It REALLY depends on context, of which we have none in this thread.

that's what I was thinking. All those yankees in the media are looking for something to jump on but don't have a clue.

[thewise1]

Exactly what I was trying to convey. I agree it was a poor choice of words. I don't care about the guy who said it, in fact if he's GOP or democrat he can rot for all I care, I just think that there may be more to the story than instant racism.

[Linzyhop]

Originally Posted by thewise1

Exactly what I was trying to convey. I agree it was a poor choice of words. I don't care about the guy who said it, in fact if he's GOP or democrat he can rot for all I care, I just think that there may be more to the story than instant racism.

agreed.

[Thorgrim]

I'm so saving this thread for historical purposes

[Thorgrim]

There was this guy, Ron Paul, and many of his long term supporters suggested a vice presidential selection over and over, and he was more than likely to be picked than any other:
The Dream Ticket: Ron Paul and… by Murray Sabrin

Ofcourse, I kept up with the Ron Paul campaign (and every other campaign), I dunno if you did

[Ezra Smack]

Oh, boy. He is just a good old boy from the old boy network. We just talk that way in the South, boy.

[lew]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

There was this guy, Ron Paul, and many of his long term supporters suggested a vice presidential selection over and over, and he was more than likely to be picked than any other:
The Dream Ticket: Ron Paul and… by Murray Sabrin

Ofcourse, I kept up with the Ron Paul campaign (and every other campaign), I dunno if you did

What does that have to do with this thread?

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by lew

What does that have to do with this thread?

he said he never heard of him or him having any relation to ron paul, i corrected him on at least the latter

[motivez]

Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby

It could be that he's calling him boy because Obama is young, or at least appears to be young. The point is, again, that you don't know the motives, just like you didn't know McCain's motives regarding the vote against MLK Day.

No, it couldn't be. The use of 'boy' to describe adult black men in a derogatory way is well documented and has a long history

[motivez]

Originally Posted by Ezra Smack

Oh, boy. He is just a good old boy from the old boy network. We just talk that way in the South, boy.

No we don't.

Saying, "Oh boy" or "Good ol boy" is different than going up to a black man and saying, "Boy, ..."

[Publius]

i'll break ranks from the other libertarians that have posted here and say yea, that seems extremely racist.

[Publius]

Originally Posted by motivez

No we don't.

Saying, "Oh boy" or "Good ol boy" is different than going up to a black man and saying, "Boy, ..."

[motivez]

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

I dunno man... It's kinda weak. You make an assumption on his meaning based on your stereotypes about where he is from. It could be that dude is a racist idiot, but I'd need more evidence than this ONE statement to say "he hates Obama b/c he's black!"

I'm not defending him or the statement, I just think it's a conclusion that may be jumped to prematurely unless you can offer more from his past showing a pattern. All you've offered us is a SINGLE statement with no prior context about this guy.

Really, you of all people should know better. You're not new to the internet or forums.

How many times have you heard anyone in Atlanta talk about another black man by referring to them using the word 'boy' ?

Seriously, go get a video recorder, and walk up to random adult black men and say "Boy, can you tell me how to get to ____" and see what happens

This isn't just some random word or southern quirk like people calling carbonated soft drinks 'pop', 'soda' or 'coke' depending where they live.. this has a long history

[lew]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

he said he never heard of him or him having any relation to ron paul, i corrected him on at least the latter

wat?

[thewise1]

Originally Posted by lew

wat?

I'm a little confused as well and suspect it has something to do with quickreply not quoting the original post by default

[SoFlaJDM]

Originally Posted by hsmith

The left is never racist.

thanks for addressing the issue at hand

[IminWonderland]

Originally Posted by motivez

No, it couldn't be. The use of 'boy' to describe adult black men in a derogatory way is well documented and has a long history

I believe there was an instance in the South where a Cop called some College Doctor guy "Boy" during a traffic stop, and he was able to sue or something for discrimination...anyways, I don't know the legality of it, but in my linguistics class that phrase is studied as a known taboo phrase with an essential meaning dating back to slavery.

But, maybe he did use it because Obama is younger by 4 years....

[kinggovernor]

you don't call grown black men "boy", it is extremely insulting. plain and simple.