And the GOP Congress already starts with the racism

[JaJae]

I'm having trouble following the logic in this thread. GOP Congress? Racism? It's interesting calling someone "boy" is racist when it comes from the mouth of a Republican, but a liberal calling someone an Uncle Tom is acceptable. I think calling someone "boy" can be racist, but being a Republican from Kentucky doesn't automatically make the man racist as seems to be implied.

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by IminWonderland

I believe there was an instance in the South where a Cop called some College Doctor guy "Boy" during a traffic stop, and he was able to sue or something for discrimination...anyways, I don't know the legality of it, but in my linguistics class that phrase is studied as a known taboo phrase with an essential meaning dating back to slavery.

But, maybe he did use it because Obama is younger by 4 years....

This is interesting. You learn something new everyday I suppose.

[illavbill]

Originally Posted by JaJae

I'm having trouble following the logic in this thread. GOP Congress? Racism? It's interesting calling someone "boy" is racist when it comes from the mouth of a Republican, but a liberal calling someone an Uncle Tom is acceptable. I think calling someone "boy" can be racist, but being a Republican from Kentucky doesn't automatically make the man racist as seems to be implied.

WAT?

[lew]

I've lived in the South my entire life.


The term 'boy' can be racist or not racist.


Anyone automatically saying 'boy' is racist doesn't know what they are talking about.

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by illavbill

WAT?

There have been numerous other threads on this forum where the OP has defended liberals calling Republican politicians Uncle Tom and even considered using the term to describe one. Yet here, we're quick to jump the gun on the word "boy" to incriminate the entire "GOP Congress" to racism.

Personally I need more evidence than a prejudiced opinion of southern Republicans to automatically qualify this statement as racist rather than an arrogant and rude statement. I also think the hypocrisy is telling.

[TankRizzo]

Calling someone BOY in a demeaning manner and then saying it's racist is about as logical as hate crimes. You're committing a crime, but if it happens to be against a minority, then it's extra bad, even though it's the same crime.

I'm sure he wasn't trying to evoke Obama's youthfulness, but I don't think it's racist. It was meant to be demeaning, but screaming racism at every turn is starting to wear thin.

[lew]

Originally Posted by TankRizzo

Calling someone BOY in a demeaning manner and then saying it's racist is about as logical as hate crimes. You're committing a crime, but if it happens to be against a minority, then it's extra bad, even though it's the same crime.

I'm sure he wasn't trying to evoke Obama's youthfulness, but I don't think it's racist. It was meant to be demeaning, but screaming racism at every turn is starting to wear thin.

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[Thorgrim]

So, it was meant to be demeaning, it was to a guy only 4 years younger...

Okay, like I said, find a black male, 4 years younger than you, go out on the street with a video camera and in a demeaning voice/manner, call him "boy" and see how he takes it

By your way, I'm sure the vast majority will completely understand you'll have some excellent video to show us

[lew]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

So, it was meant to be demeaning, it was to a guy only 4 years younger...

Okay, like I said, find a black male, 4 years younger than you, go out on the street with a video camera and in a demeaning voice/manner, call him "boy" and see how he takes it

By your way, I'm sure the vast majority will completely understand you'll have some excellent video to show us

You have got to be the most racist member I've seen on this forum.

You're assuming that if one of us did that, the black person would go apeshit and fight us / yell at us / whatever. That's completely racist.

[TankRizzo]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

So, it was meant to be demeaning, it was to a guy only 4 years younger...

Okay, like I said, find a black male, 4 years younger than you, go out on the street with a video camera and in a demeaning voice/manner, call him "boy" and see how he takes it

By your way, I'm sure the vast majority will completely understand you'll have some excellent video to show us

That proves what, again?

If you go up to a black male in a suit and call him a faggot or any other number of demeaning terms you'll see the same result.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by lew

You have got to be the most racist member I've seen on this forum.

You're assuming that if one of us did that, the black person would go apeshit and fight us / yell at us / whatever. That's completely racist.

first off, others have made this point as well

i didnt say any of them would fight you, i was implying they'd be outraged, yelling would cover that I guess?

I dunno, if some white guy came up to one of my black classmates and called him boy, I think I'd yell, does that make me some sort of animal?

I don't equate reacting verbally to a verbal assault as meaning something bad about a race, its a racial insult, as others have said it has a long and historical history, and to this day is the same thing

many people in this thread have said it's unacceptable in one way or another, racially

[TankRizzo]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

many people in this thread have said it's unacceptable in one way or another, racially

In spite of what the democratic party's PC agenda says, simply saying something demeaning to a minority does NOT make someone racist.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by TankRizzo

In spite of what the democratic party's PC agenda says, simply saying something demeaning to a minority does NOT make someone racist.

We would ALL agree that calling a black man a "faggot" is not racist per se

But boy is racism per se in any adult with a dose of reality, this man has been IN POLITICS IN THE SOUTH, WITH BLACK CONSTITUENTS FOR DECADES, it's a very very well known fact and while some may have missed it, he is one of the people who certainly didn't...can you remember the last time a white congressman called a black man boy?

[TankRizzo]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

We would ALL agree that calling a black man a "faggot" is not racist per se

But boy is racism per se in any adult with a dose of reality, this man has been IN POLITICS IN THE SOUTH, WITH BLACK CONSTITUENTS FOR DECADES, it's a very very well known fact and while some may have missed it, he is one of the people who certainly didn't...can you remember the last time a white congressman called a black man boy?

No matter how you cut it, the term BOY is not a racist term. It's meant to be demeaning, but it's not racist. I love how the racial prospectors going around panning every phrase for a nugget of something they can call racist is starting to dry up. It's been abused and it's starting to fall on deaf ears. It's still working mind you, but it's starting to get ignored now that it's been frivolously abused the past couple decades.

[Ardentfrost]

Originally Posted by motivez

How many times have you heard anyone in Atlanta talk about another black man by referring to them using the word 'boy' ?

Seriously, go get a video recorder, and walk up to random adult black men and say "Boy, can you tell me how to get to ____" and see what happens

This isn't just some random word or southern quirk like people calling carbonated soft drinks 'pop', 'soda' or 'coke' depending where they live.. this has a long history

Again, it's all about context. I don't know HOW this guy said it (need video). If he emphasized the word "boy," then sure, racist as shit. But if it was nonchalant in the sentence, I hear people say that shit all the time. Whiteys calling whiteys, whiteys calling blackies, and blackies calling whiteys... none of it is racist. "That boy ain't right" is something I hear ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

I'm not saying dude's comment wasn't racist, all I'm saying is that saying it's racist based on this thread is retarded. If someone has video or a full text of the speech or examples from dude's past of him being racist, then a case can be built. Otherwise, let's not assume racism on an ambiguous idiom based on a stereotype of the South.

[JaJae]

I would just like to point this out:

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

if you think 99.9% of black people are great and equal, and 99.9% of white people are great and equal...yet one black politician is an "uncle tom"

that is not racism, you need more than one person to be a racist

im on the fence on the issue, whether or not I should call MS an Uncle Tom

Does this still hold true?

[Phantom]

This is a great thread. One guy who happens to be a Republican makes a comment that could be considered racist and the thread title suggests all the GOP in congress is racist.

It's exactly this type of ignorant politics that got us to where we are today.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by TankRizzo

No matter how you cut it, the term BOY is not a racist term. It's meant to be demeaning, but it's not racist. I love how the racial prospectors going around panning every phrase for a nugget of something they can call racist is starting to dry up. It's been abused and it's starting to fall on deaf ears. It's still working mind you, but it's starting to get ignored now that it's been frivolously abused the past couple decades.

Then we have to agree to disagree, and I know several members of this board (which leans very much to the right) agree with me that it was racist term against a black man

[TankRizzo]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Then we have to agree to disagree, and I know several members of this board (which leans very much to the right) agree with me that it was racist term against a black man

It's not a term of endearment, but to say the word boy is racist is nitpicking.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by TankRizzo

to say the word boy is racist [by whites against blacks] is nitpicking.

In your personal opinion