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Old 04-16-2008, 01:40 PM   #61
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
In your personal opinion
just as yours is personal opinion as well.
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:46 PM   #62
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Originally Posted by Linzyhop View Post
just as yours is personal opinion as well.
That's correct
 
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:15 PM   #63
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Originally Posted by TankRizzo View Post
Calling someone BOY in a demeaning manner and then saying it's racist is about as logical as hate crimes. You're committing a crime, but if it happens to be against a minority, then it's extra bad, even though it's the same crime.

I'm sure he wasn't trying to evoke Obama's youthfulness, but I don't think it's racist. It was meant to be demeaning, but screaming racism at every turn is starting to wear thin.


It's ironic that the people screaming "racism" are racists themselves, but I consider any adherence to the social concept of race to be racist.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:18 PM   #64
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
I'm having trouble following the logic in this thread. GOP Congress? Racism? It's interesting calling someone "boy" is racist when it comes from the mouth of a Republican, but a liberal calling someone an Uncle Tom is acceptable. I think calling someone "boy" can be racist, but being a Republican from Kentucky doesn't automatically make the man racist as seems to be implied.
I don't think calling someone an uncle tom is acceptable either, but just like black people are "allowed" to use the n word to each other, it's certainly more acceptable by political correctness standards for that to happen than a white Congressman to call an adult black Senator "boy"
 
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:25 PM   #65
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No, it couldn't be. The use of 'boy' to describe adult black men in a derogatory way is well documented and has a long history
Well, you still don't know his motivations for saying, "boy."
 
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:33 PM   #66
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Context rules this.

The term "homo" is tossed around in Socal if someone is just being dumb, as slang perhaps, an idiom. But, go to SanFrancisco and call out "homo!" to someone who is one, it could be taken as derogatory.

It's not the words themselves, it is how they are used.

Southern poltician referring to a mature man as "boy" is an attempt to demean his credibility in maturity.

Southern politician referring to a black man, who is another politician as "boy", is a pretty stupid slip. It has a connotation to it.

Who knows why he said it. But he did, and he shouldn't apologize for it, if he feels it is appropriate to call Obama "boy".
 
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Old 04-16-2008, 03:18 PM   #67
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White guy from Kentucky calling a middle-aged black man 'boy.'

 
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Old 04-16-2008, 03:24 PM   #68
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Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby View Post
Well, you still don't know his motivations for saying, "boy."
The usage of it, especially by southerners to describe adult black men in a derogatory way has a long history.. anyone who speaks in public for a living is sure to be aware of it

Maybe it was an accident, but I don't think he was using it to describe his youthfulness
 
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Old 04-16-2008, 07:02 PM   #69
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Context is everything as people have said. Here's the audio, take it as you will I suppose.

YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.
 
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Old 04-16-2008, 07:50 PM   #70
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404: Racism not found
 
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Old 04-16-2008, 07:50 PM   #71
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Old 04-16-2008, 10:12 PM   #72
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racism not found
 
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Old 04-16-2008, 10:21 PM   #73
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yeah, after listening to it, that is not racist

thorgrim, I really hope you'll man up here
 
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Old 04-16-2008, 10:57 PM   #74
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yeah, after listening to it, that is not racist

thorgrim, I really hope you'll man up here
manning up is not something liberals usually do, in fact they oppose the concept of "manning up", it infers that women are inferior.
 
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Old 04-16-2008, 10:58 PM   #75
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listening to what? man to who, what where? que?
 
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Old 04-16-2008, 11:00 PM   #76
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
listening to what? man to who, what where? que?
the youtube video above
 
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Old 04-16-2008, 11:03 PM   #77
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Originally Posted by thewise1 View Post
the youtube video above
He doesn't like reading my posts so he requested to have me added to ignore. Although I'm fairly sure he viewed the thread logged out already, to play along with the charade someone would have to quote me. The audio has been around for as long as the story (which by and large is not about racism), I assume he would have heard the audio before making this thread...
 
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Old 04-16-2008, 11:03 PM   #78
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
Context is everything as people have said. Here's the audio, take it as you will I suppose.

YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.
i shall go ahead and play along
 
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Old 04-16-2008, 11:04 PM   #79
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Originally Posted by thewise1 View Post
i shall go ahead and play along
He's on my ignore, a lot of people are...get used to it
 
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Old 04-16-2008, 11:07 PM   #80
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
He's on my ignore, a lot of people are...get used to it
so did you watch it?
 
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