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Old 04-14-2008, 08:21 PM   #1
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And the GOP Congress already starts with the racism

"I'm going to tell you something: That boy's finger does not need to be on the button."

-- Rep. Geoff Davis (R-KY) on Barack Obama

Oh 'boy'... - First Read - msnbc.com

Really, like a man in politics for how long, in the south, doesn't know what it means to call a fully developed 46 year old black person "boy"

I don't think there is much to discuss, I just want to hear some people try to say it wasn't meant in a racist way
 
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Old 04-14-2008, 09:27 PM   #3
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Statements from Congressmen > Guessing about voters motives
 
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Old 04-14-2008, 11:39 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
"I'm going to tell you something: That boy's finger does not need to be on the button."

-- Rep. Geoff Davis (R-KY) on Barack Obama

Oh 'boy'... - First Read - msnbc.com

Really, like a man in politics for how long, in the south, doesn't know what it means to call a fully developed 46 year old black person "boy"

I don't think there is much to discuss, I just want to hear some people try to say it wasn't meant in a racist way
It could be that he's calling him boy because Obama is young, or at least appears to be young. The point is, again, that you don't know the motives, just like you didn't know McCain's motives regarding the vote against MLK Day.
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Old 04-14-2008, 11:41 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby View Post
It could be that he's calling him boy because Obama is young, or at least appears to be young.
He's 4 years older than Obama.
 
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:34 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
He's 4 years older than Obama.
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:08 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
He's 4 years older than Obama.
I'm always amazed at how willing some people on here are willing to bend over backwards to random republicans they don't know

They get an automatic star next to their name because it's (R) not (D)...only when they screw up Bush style are they mocked
 
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:45 AM   #8
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Meh, I don't take it as racism, but I don't look for racism in every comment either. Poorly worded, I'll give you that for sure, though.

And I'm not defending the Republican from Kentucky. He actually looks kind of inbred to me on his site
 
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:52 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by thewise1 View Post
Meh, I don't take it as racism, but I don't look for racism in every comment either. Poorly worded, I'll give you that for sure, though.

And I'm not defending the Republican from Kentucky. He actually looks kind of inbred to me on his site
you are defending him

"poorly worded" cmon he's a white guy from Kentucky who has blacks in his district...he's not functionally retarded either

everyone knows what "boy" means when one white adult says it to another black adult with a 4 year age difference
 
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:54 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
you are defending him

"poorly worded" cmon he's a white guy from Kentucky who has blacks in his district...he's not functionally retarded either

everyone knows what "boy" means when one white adult says it to another black adult with a 4 year age difference
just because I say 'brotha' to my black friends doesn't mean it has anything to do with their race, and even if it did doesn't mean that I look down on them because of their skin color.
 
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:58 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by thewise1 View Post
just because I say 'brotha' to my black friends doesn't mean it has anything to do with their race, and even if it did doesn't mean that I look down on them because of their skin color.
I have no idea where you are going with this...

If I called some black guys in my class "brotha" they'd all laugh at me

If I called one of them boy, everyone in the class would refuse to associate with me, and rightfully so

I think you seriously lack not only the historical usage of the word boy, but CURRENT usage in urban america by open racists
 
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Old 04-15-2008, 03:03 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
I have no idea where you are going with this...

If I called some black guys in my class "brotha" they'd all laugh at me

If I called one of them boy, everyone in the class would refuse to associate with me, and rightfully so

I think you seriously lack not only the historical usage of the word boy, but CURRENT usage in urban america by open racists
I'm just saying that it looks bad, but that the meaning isn't necessarily racist. I've used words I probably shouldn't have used before. I've even used the n word on very rare occasion. But I'm not a racist
 
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Old 04-15-2008, 03:07 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by thewise1 View Post
I'm just saying that it looks bad, but that the meaning isn't necessarily racist. I've used words I probably shouldn't have used before. I've even used the n word on very rare occasion. But I'm not a racist
Excusing yourself is off topic and doesn't mean you should excuse others...be objective

He's from the south, he's the same age of Barack, he has blacks in his district he appeals to...he knows of the urban environment of the US...he well knows how politicians handle things like calling blacks "boy"

There is absolutely no excuse and it's a CLEAR sign of racism, thankfully being in the minority in the house leaves him with basically no power until he gets voted out eventually (it is a tossup district if I remember correctly...but it is Kentucky so I don't know if there are enough whites who care...or blacks)
 
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Excuse me but "boy" is a slang-term used in the South. I was born in Houston, TX only stayed for a year as a baby and have a Grandma who still lives there.

My Dad lives in North Carolina and they use that same term "boy" to communicate with anyone whether it's friendly or aggressive. They say it to any man, a man of younger age, white, black, mexican, or children. It's slang. Like how I say "bro", "homie", "dog", "fool" and other Southern California slang.

When I opened the topic I thought I was going to read something crazy and it's all about him saying "boy"? Are you kidding me? It's southern slang. I'm really at shock with this topic. Grow up. Next I can't call Hillary Clinton a big fat whore, making me sexist. 1st Amendment!
 
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Old 04-15-2008, 06:49 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by Scrum View Post
He's 4 years older than Obama.
or at least appears to be young.



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or at least appears to be young.



or at least appears to be young.



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or at least appears to be young.



or at least appears to be young.
 
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I dunno man... It's kinda weak. You make an assumption on his meaning based on your stereotypes about where he is from. It could be that dude is a racist idiot, but I'd need more evidence than this ONE statement to say "he hates Obama b/c he's black!"

I'm not defending him or the statement, I just think it's a conclusion that may be jumped to prematurely unless you can offer more from his past showing a pattern. All you've offered us is a SINGLE statement with no prior context about this guy.

Really, you of all people should know better. You're not new to the internet or forums.
 
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Old 04-15-2008, 08:42 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby View Post
or at least appears to be young.



or at least appears to be young.



or at least appears to be young.



or at least appears to be young.



or at least appears to be young.



or at least appears to be young.



or at least appears to be young.
Yea he appears to be young enough to be called "boy" by someone turning 50 this year.


GTFO with that shit.
 
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for me it really depends how he said the word boy.

if he pronounced it without really saying the "y" at the end, then i can see how it could be racist. i grew up in the south too and you can hear plenty of that around, but generally anyone that was younger than you, you could call boy too, as in slang.....

basically if it was said with hatred, it probably was racist. if it was just said casually then i doubt it was.

context people, context.
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Old 04-15-2008, 09:36 AM   #19
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Shit, in my experience, EVERYONE is boy in the South. HoA told my mom "Boy, you better mow your lawn."

Ok, not THAT bad, but seriously. Hasn't anyone ever watched King of the Hill? lol. It REALLY depends on context, of which we have none in this thread.
 
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