PA Primary Results

motivez · 04-22-2008, 08:34 PM

So, it's been over 30 minutes since the polls closed and they have no numbers in..

All of the networks thus far are describing the race as competitive based on the exit polls.. could be the death knell for the Clinton campaign..

JaJae · 04-22-2008, 08:38 PM

Exit polls showed Hillary up by 4 points. I think Hillary is gonna end up winning by 6-8 points. I don't think Obama is going to have as great of a turnout as Hillary.

TankRizzo · 04-22-2008, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Exit polls showed Hillary up by 4 points. I think Hillary is gonna end up winning by 6-8 points. I don't think Obama is going to have as great of a turnout as Hillary.

Obama generally has better exit poll numbers than what he actually does.

Watching CNN/MSNBC/Fox is EXCRUCIATINGLY painful right now. I feel like I've been listening to a 5 minute loop.

JaJae · 04-22-2008, 08:44 PM

Less than 1% counted, some Hillary counties are reporting some numbers. 65-35%. IF this stays true for all of PA and you ignore Philli, Hillary still won't have scored well enough to make her competitive.

This assuming Obama doesn't win NC and Hillary wins every other primary by 40 points. At this rate, that's what Hillary would have to do.

kombayn · 04-22-2008, 08:45 PM

CNN shows that the vote is an average of 2,000 to 1,000 so Hillary is winning 2-to-1 right now. Everyone knows she'll win this state, but if she loses Indiana and North Carolina, she'll be done. I don't really care anymore, by November McCain will have had a heart attack and for some reason the DNC will have a Brokered Convention and Al Gore will be the Nominee and with McCain passed away, the GOP will have convinced Colin Powell to run in his place with Ms. Rice. Then at that time, you'll see topic where I've declared that we've officially entered Bizzaro World.

JaJae · 04-22-2008, 08:48 PM

CNN is talking about Bill Clinton's lie during their PA coverage.

kombayn · 04-22-2008, 08:51 PM

I really dislike Paul Bagala. He looks like a dork and needs a really massive wedgy.

David Octavius · 04-22-2008, 08:56 PM

Clinton wins PA according to MSNBC and Faux

JaJae · 04-22-2008, 09:02 PM

Here are the current numbers by CNN:

This is what Hillary needs to win if Obama has the same lead in North Carolina. Recent polls actually have Obama up in Indiana.. and up by 15 points in or so in North Carolina. But I'm trying to put this in the best case scenario for Hillary.

Basically Barack Obama has to be hit by a bus in order for Hillary to win. The media really just needs to call this primary already. All this win means for Hillary is the media can keep this race going.

6SpeedTA95 · 04-22-2008, 09:04 PM

wooowoooo

6SpeedTA95 · 04-22-2008, 09:06 PM

Hillary really needs to win this by 8+ points in order to even attempt to justify sticking around...it'll be interesting to see what happens

JaJae · 04-22-2008, 09:07 PM

Here's the reality, Hillary is down by 140+ points. At this point she's only going to pick up about 10 delegates with only 9 smaller primaries left to go.

Which means she has to pick up 130+ points. It can't be done, even if she wins every remaining primary by the same numbers.

kombayn · 04-22-2008, 09:08 PM

So basically they're saying on CNN right now is that she's making a pledge for the Super-Delegates. So she wants to basically say "Screw the people, I'm going to steal this nomination."

I still won't vote for her.

Scrum · 04-22-2008, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

All this win means for Hillary is the media can keep this race going.

Are you kidding? They are loving this race.

It's one soundbite after another that their braindead pundits can pontificate on.

A_C_E · 04-22-2008, 09:09 PM

God this sucks so badly. I just want this shit to be over.

And yet, another narrow win for Hillary means this shit can keep on going, as we watch our chances in November going down the toilet right in from of our eyes.

6SpeedTA95 · 04-22-2008, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by kombayn

So basically they're saying on CNN right now is that she's making a pledge for the Super-Delegates. So she wants to basically say "Screw the people, I'm going to steal this nomination." I still won't vote for her.

Irony

6SpeedTA95 · 04-22-2008, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by A_C_E

God this sucks so badly. I just want this shit to be over.

And yet, another narrow win for Hillary means this shit can keep on going, as we watch our chances in November going down the toilet right in from of our eyes.

If its a narrow win she'll drop out, narrow is 4 points or less, if its 4 to 8 points she'll try to stay in, if its 8+ points she's definately going to stay in

Scrum · 04-22-2008, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by A_C_E

God this sucks so badly. I just want this shit to be over.

And yet, another narrow win for Hillary means this shit can keep on going, as we watch our chances in November going down the toilet right in from of our eyes.

Maybe these un-pledged delegates will get behind Obama and end this thing.

JaJae · 04-22-2008, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

If its a narrow win she'll drop out, narrow is 4 points or less, if its 4 to 8 points she'll try to stay in, if its 8+ points she's definately going to stay in

If she doesn't win by more than 20 points she should drop out in my opinion.

6SpeedTA95 · 04-22-2008, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

If she doesn't win by more than 20 points she should drop out in my opinion.

I agree but anything 5 points and higher is going to be touted as a huge win by her and her campaign.