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Old 04-30-2008, 10:23 AM   #1
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Cheney: Congress has no authority over vice-president


The lawyer for US vice-president Dick Cheney claimed today that the Congress lacks any authority to examine his behaviour on the job.

The exception claimed by Cheney's counsel came in response to requests from congressional Democrats that David Addington, the vice-president's chief of staff, testify about his involvement in the approval of interrogation tactics used at Guantanamo Bay.

Ruling out voluntary cooperation by Addington, Cheney lawyer Kathryn Wheelbarger said Cheney's conduct is "not within the [congressional] committee's power of inquiry".

"Congress lacks the constitutional power to regulate by law what a vice-president communicates in the performance of the vice president's official duties, or what a vice president recommends that a president communicate," Wheelbarger wrote to senior aides on Capitol Hill.

The exception claimed by Cheney's office recalls his attempt last year to evade rules for classified documents by deeming the vice-president's office a hybrid branch of government - both executive and legislative.

The Democratic congressman who is investigating the legal framework for the violent interrogation of terrorist suspects, John Conyers, has asked Addington and several other top Bush administration lawyers to testify. Thus far all have claimed their deliberations are privileged.

However, Philippe Sands QC, law professor at University College, London, has agreed to appear in Washington and discuss the revelations in Torture Team, his new book on the consequences of the brutal tactics used at Guantanamo.

Excerpts from Torture Team were previewed exclusively by the Guardian earlier this month.

Two witnesses sought by Conyers, former US attorney general John Ashcroft and former US justice department lawyer John Yoo, claimed that their involvement in civil lawsuits related to harsh interrogations allows them to avoid appearing before Congress.

In letters to attorneys representing Ashcroft and Yoo, Conyers shot down their arguments and indicated he would pursue subpoenas if their clients did not testify at his May 6 hearing.

"I am aware of no basis for the remarkable claim that pending civil litigation somehow immunises an individual from testifying before Congress," Conyers wrote.

Conyers, who chairs the House of Representatives judiciary committee, also questioned the reasoning of Cheney's lawyer in a letter to Addington.

"It is hard to know what aspect of the invitation [to you] has given rise to concern that the committee might seek to regulate the vice president's recommendations to the president," Conyers wrote.

"Especially since far more obvious potential subjects of legislation are plentiful," he added, mentioning several: US laws on the use of torture on terrorist suspects, the 15-year-old War Crimes Act, and the rules that allowed the Bush White House to receive legal advice from a specialised office within the justice department.

* by Elana Schor
* guardian.co.uk,
* Tuesday April 29 2008
Cheney lawyer claims Congress has no authority over vice-president | World news | guardian.co.uk

So what do the legal eagles around here think about this?

I remember when this came up awhile back, Cheney claimed to be part of neither the legislative or executive branch exclusively, so of course, neither had any authority over him

I kinda feel like this is such an important issue, because it goes to the core of what this country is about.. do we have co-equal branches of government, can we hold the executive branch accountable for their actions in this day and age, or are they beyond reproach because both major parties feel like impeachment proceedings are too politically damaging?

Also, because moving forward, whoever the President is, will have these powers unless they give them up voluntarily.. which I don't really see happening.

One of the things I'd like to do if I get a chance to ask a question of Clinton or Obama is whether the first day in office they'll issue an executive order rescinding the powers Bush has attempted to give himself through signing statements, executive orders, etc..
 
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Old 04-30-2008, 10:35 AM   #2
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I think the claim is laughable. He is trying to bring up a schoolyard tactic of " oh I said no returns! you can't punch me now, haha".

It should be fairly obvious to anyone that the vice president is under the same umbrella that the president is, the executive branch. Sure he has duties that involve working with other branches but that does not mean he is under thier legal umbrella.
 
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Old 04-30-2008, 11:18 AM   #3
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The mere presence of Cheney in the office of Vice President is President Bush's biggest life insurance policy.
 
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:22 PM   #4
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If Cheney is a member of the legislative branch, then I guess Nancy Pelosi is a member of the executive branch
 
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:33 PM   #5
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This is absurd. This country is moving in the wrong direction.
 
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Old 04-30-2008, 01:09 PM   #6
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We can get these crooks out of office quick enough. Cheney needs to be smacked or beat up by a mob. For real.
 
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