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Old 05-08-2008, 12:16 PM   #41
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Keep in mind it was austrian school economists that were the first to really challenge and in many ways disprove the marxists.
Defeating the marxist ideology is akin to an adult beating up a 6 year old: it's easy and was bound to happen, but it doesn't make you superior
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Old 05-08-2008, 12:46 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by David Octavius View Post
Defeating the marxist ideology is akin to an adult beating up a 6 year old: it's easy and was bound to happen, but it doesn't make you superior
Umm yeah I agree
 
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Old 05-08-2008, 01:50 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by David Octavius View Post
Defeating the marxist ideology is akin to an adult beating up a 6 year old: it's easy and was bound to happen, but it doesn't make you superior
uhhh.....what?

Marxist ideology, if argued correctly, is basically impregnable. It's as bulletproof in theory as Objectivism, even if neither work particularly well in practice.
 
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Old 05-08-2008, 02:10 PM   #44
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uhhh.....what?

Marxist ideology, if argued correctly, is basically impregnable. It's as bulletproof in theory as Objectivism, even if neither work particularly well in practice.
Well that's our difference, I think about reality, not theory. If one works in theory but not in reality then it is absurd in practice and dangerous in reality
 
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Old 05-08-2008, 05:01 PM   #45
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Well that's our difference, I think about reality, not theory. If one works in theory but not in reality then it is absurd in practice and dangerous in reality
Except the Austrian School never proved anyone wrong in reality
 
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Except the Austrian School never proved anyone wrong in reality
Marxism proved itself wrong in reality, the Austrian school didn't have to do a thing. If the Austrian School's methods were made real it too would fail miserably
 
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:50 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by David Octavius View Post
Marxism proved itself wrong in reality, the Austrian school didn't have to do a thing. If the Austrian School's methods were made real it too would fail miserably
Debatable. The Leninist state in Russia was nothing like what Marx envisioned a Communist nation would look like.

At the same time, I'm well aware it wouldn't work. Just saying that it has never really been tested.
 
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:17 AM   #48
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Debatable. The Leninist state in Russia was nothing like what Marx envisioned a Communist nation would look like.

At the same time, I'm well aware it wouldn't work. Just saying that it has never really been tested.
It is not debatable, its a simple fact

Marxism cannot be tested, its central core depends on people and more specifically those that have power during the transition into Marxism to act counter to their nature - it would never happen.

Marxism is countervailing to every psychological and sociological tenants that govern human behavior and action, both individually and collectively. Its unworkable on many levels.
 
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