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Old 05-04-2008, 06:30 PM   #1
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State by State breakdown McCain v. Democrats

Ohio
McCain v. Clinton RCP Average 04/08 - 04/29 -- 42.3 47.7 Clinton +5.4
McCain v. Obama RCP Average 04/08 - 04/29 -- 45.7 42.3 McCain +3.4

Penn.
McCain v. Clinton RCP Average 03/27 - 04/29 -- 41.5 48.3 Clinton +6.8
McCain v. Obama RCP Average 03/27 - 04/29 -- 42.8 44.0 Obama +1.2

Florida
McCain v. Clinton RCP Average 03/15 - 04/29 -- 44.0 45.7 Clinton +1.7
McCain v. Obama RCP Average 03/15 - 04/29 -- 49.0 40.0 McCain +9.0

Iowa
McCain v. Obama RCP Average 03/31 - 04/23 -- 47.0 40.3 12.7 McCain +6.7
McCain v. Clinton RCP Average 03/31 - 04/23 -- 41.7 48.0 10.3 Obama +6.3

realclearpolitics.com

Here is Hillary's reason she is still in the race and has a better shot at beating McCain than Obama. She is polling better than Obama against McCain in the 3 big swing states, but Obama will count that he could take Iowa. However, Obama will lose if he can't take either Floria or Ohio in the general election.
 
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Old 05-04-2008, 06:31 PM   #2
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The Democrats are going to kick themselves for disenfranchising Florida and MI in the general election if they don't seat their delegates

People will be pissed and not turn out
 
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Old 05-04-2008, 06:44 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
The Democrats are going to kick themselves for disenfranchising Florida and MI in the general election if they don't seat their delegates

People will be pissed and not turn out
its from March 31st, so take it with a grain of salt:

The latest Rasmussen Reports poll in Michigan shows McCain attracting 43% of the vote when matched against Barack Obama. Obama earns 42% while 8% say they would vote for a third-party candidate and 7% remain undecided.

If Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee, it’s McCain 45% Clinton 42%. In that match-up, 10% opt for a third-party candidate while 4% are undecided.

McCain is viewed favorably by 55% of the state’s voters. Obama earns positive reviews from 50%, Clinton from 47%. The Republican hopeful leads both Democrats among unaffiliated voters and also benefits from solid Republican support.

Rasmussen Reports™: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election.
 
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Old 05-04-2008, 08:12 PM   #4
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I'm just happy the above polls allow people to pick a third party candidate.

I hate it when I see a head-to-head poll on the news networks and the numbers between McCain and whoever add up to 99% or 100%.

I'm not voting for any of the three.
 
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Old 05-05-2008, 03:26 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
The Democrats are going to kick themselves for disenfranchising Florida and MI in the general election if they don't seat their delegates

People will be pissed and not turn out
Those knew the rules and consequences of violating those rules. They can only blame themselves for basically disqualifying their nomination efforts.
 
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Old 05-05-2008, 03:28 PM   #6
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I think Barack or Clinton will be the winner. I am in about as conservative state as you can get and a comedian asked the general question of "so, who is excited to have John McCain the republican candidate" and the entire crowd of 300 just sat there. Not one whistle or wooo or clap. The comedian was like "yeah, thats consistent with everywhere else" then he went on to make hillary clinton looks like clay aken jokes.

Conservatives will simply not turn out to vote for him.
 
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Old 05-05-2008, 03:49 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by DosEquis View Post
Those knew the rules and consequences of violating those rules. They can only blame themselves for basically disqualifying their nomination efforts.
the state party did, the regular party members had little say over the issue.
 
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Old 05-05-2008, 04:21 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by DosEquis View Post
Those knew the rules and consequences of violating those rules. They can only blame themselves for basically disqualifying their nomination efforts.
The Citizens need to blame the State's Democratic Party, not the DNC for breaking the rules. But the Media doesn't report it like they should, the GOP pundits and the Clinton pundits are trying to spin it on Obama. It's really stupid and I wish people in those states would realize who's to blame.
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:15 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by kinggovernor View Post
She is polling better than Obama against McCain in the 3 big swing states, but Obama will count that he could take Iowa. However, Obama will lose if he can't take either Floria or Ohio in the general election.
At this point Iowa shouldn't even count It's been so long ago and Obama isn't nearly regarded as the same person he was back then. He was an unknown commodity and skated by on good looks and some smooth speeches.
 
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