Originally Posted by JaJae I would imagine there would be some bad blood there that would make giving Edwards the VP slot a bit odd. Not only that, the GOP would play all the Edwards attacks on Obama over and over again to show why Democrats shouldn't vote for Obama. ...
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05-15-2008, 02:12 PM
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| Originally Posted by JaJae that's what graham was doing on talk radio this morning....he kept saying "I have the clip of edwards giving his endorsement" and then he'd play edwards saying something about obama not being qualified to be president. that went on for 30 minutes and he never ran out of clips of edwards shitting on obama. GOP media people are going to have an easy time if obama picks edwards. 
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05-15-2008, 02:28 PM
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| What exactly did Edwards say and is it soundbyte worthy? That's basically what it boils down to. Edwards, a southern, white male; represents a good bit of what Obama is struggling with. | ||||
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05-15-2008, 02:31 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur.  Reform Party NJ
| Originally Posted by TankRizzo Edwards gave about a million and one soundbyte worthy statements when he was running against both Obama and Hillary. But he was especially tough on Obama because of his "non universal" health care plan and "inexperience." Obama was the easier target. Hillary was still perceived as inevitable so he just wanted to get Obama out so he could go head to head against her as part of the final two knowing he couldn't continue to share votes with Obama anymore.
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05-15-2008, 02:39 PM
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| Originally Posted by TankRizzo there were comments from the debate and from an interview, something to do with obama speaking favorably about reagan.
yes, they were soundbyte worthy. | ||||
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05-15-2008, 02:43 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est  Pragmatist Greensboro, NC
| Originally Posted by TankRizzo But Edwards has no clout with southern, white males.. at least in NC, and if he doesn't have the clout with them in his home state, where is he capable of helping Obama pick up votes?
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05-15-2008, 03:01 PM
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| Originally Posted by motivez I still don't think it's completely out of the picture.
The VP pick will be interesting regardless.  | ||||
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05-15-2008, 03:08 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est Pragmatist Greensboro, NC
| I'm just saying, everyone seems to be buying into this idea that because Edwards is white, because he's from the south, his endorsement is going to get Obama votes They forget that the southern white males that Obama is having trouble with don't like Edwards or his $300 haircuts.. Those people from the Edwards camp jumped ship to Obama long ago.. | ||||
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05-15-2008, 03:13 PM
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| Originally Posted by motivez yep.
I believe edwards didn't even win his homeTOWN in the primary. IMO he's not going to bring many votes with him. | ||||
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05-15-2008, 03:19 PM
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| Originally Posted by motivez You're also assuming that the democratic party uses logic when picking and choosing their representatives.
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05-15-2008, 03:40 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est Pragmatist Greensboro, NC
| Originally Posted by TankRizzo Edwards was on the ticket with Kerry and didn't bring much of anything to the ticket except some youth.. which was needed, but this time it's not.
Obama is also getting charged with being youthful and inexperienced, so he's going to have to have someone older, someone with foreign policy experience, and imo a military background I think Clark would make an excellent choice, even though he doesn't bring anything to the table in terms of electoral votes. | ||||
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05-15-2008, 03:47 PM
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| Originally Posted by motivez I see him being in the cabinet, but not VP.
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05-15-2008, 03:49 PM
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| Braccae tuae aperiuntur. Reform Party NJ
| Originally Posted by TankRizzo NY Times has suggested he is looking for an Attorney General position. I think that's a scary thought.
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05-15-2008, 04:07 PM
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| Originally Posted by JaJae
I was talking about Clark, not Edwards. | ||||
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05-15-2008, 04:08 PM
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| Originally Posted by TankRizzo My mistake.
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05-15-2008, 04:12 PM
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| Originally Posted by JaJae that is scary though
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05-15-2008, 08:11 PM
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| 100% L.A. Livin'  Independent Los Angeles, CA
| I can guarantee you that Obama will not choose Edwards. John has already said he's not interested in the slot and he can make a shit load more of money doing speeches and books. I think Obama is norrowing it down to 3 people... Gov. Bill Richardson, Gov. Tim Kaine and Sen. Jim Webb. In that order. | ||||
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05-15-2008, 08:41 PM
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| Originally Posted by JaJae that would be a better fit for him, as bad as I would think it would be
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05-16-2008, 08:02 AM
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| Originally Posted by kinggovernor just like jack the ripper is a better fit for vice cop than sanitation worker.
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05-16-2008, 08:52 AM
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| Originally Posted by kombayn I don't know why, but I don't see it being Richardson. Plus I think he'd be better off going for someone a little less known. With Richardson being in the clinton camp before, I think if he gets the VP it'll look like he was bribed into the spot.
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05-16-2008, 07:02 PM
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| Lurker  libertarian Kutztown PA
| I agree, as much as I would like to see Richardson in there (I liked him more than any of the other democrats when the primaries started up) I don't see it happening. First like Tank said, it will look like Obama bought him off, remember when Carville called him to Brutus? This is a shame because I feel Richardson did the right thing and endorsed the better candidate regardless of petty politics. This shouldn't be a popularity contest where everyone just endorses their friends, it should be an informed decision, and I feel Richardson made a good one. Second this would put two minorities on the ticket, now this might not matter in the end as anyone who would refuse to vote for a half Mexican VP probably won't be voting for a half black POTUS, but I just get the feeling that one minority is kinda stretching America's racial tolerance, and two might be asking too much. Again this is a shame as Richardson would make a great counterbalance to Obama's lack of experience and would help him get the Hispanic vote (could come into play with McCain's maverick immigration stance). But unfortunately I just don't see it happening. I do hope Richardson at least gets an appointed position though. Oh yeah... Hillary should drop out, all shes doing is making watching the news annoying, about 100,000 people died this week in Asia, but all i hear about is Obama and Hillary. Shes said all she has to say and done all she can, theres nothing left. Game over, thanks for playing. | ||||
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