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Old 05-08-2008, 05:51 PM   #1
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CA Superdelegate wants $20 million for his vote

DNC Superdelegate Puts His Vote Up For Sale
Steven Ybarra Wants $20 Million For His Vote
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (CBS13) ― In this tight battle for the Democratic nomination we've heard a lot about the candidates courting superdelegates.

But, one superdelegate is courting the candidates. He says he'll sell his vote for a price. A very high price: $20 million.

Steven Ybarra of Sacramento says that eight-figure price is peanuts for the presidency.

When asked whether it was right to offer what is clearly a quid pro quo, he responded, "yeah, absolutely. People do it all the time," answered Ybarra.

But not like this. Not in public and not for such big bucks. It begs the question: Is he crazy?

"Nobody's said I'm crazy," said Ybarra.

Ybarra wants every cent of the $20 million to go towards registering and educating eligible Mexican-American voters, who he calls the key to the White House.

"And I keep asking the question of the DNC: 'why won't you earmark money for these voters?' And their answer is, 'oh, we can't do that' Which is a lie," said Ybarra.

With the Democratic National Committee saying 'no,' Ybarra waits for a 'yes' from already cash-strapped Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.

Would he accept less? How about $5 million?

"No, $5 million is nothing," said Ybarra.

It might be a moot point as neither campaign has come calling.

"No, I think most people right now are looking at this as some crazy guy in California because after all I'm from California," said Ybarra.

He thinks his own party is crazy for not aggressively pursuing the Mexican-American vote especially with such a large Mexican-American population in the southwest.

"We should kick John McCain's a** in his own hometown," said Ybarra.

This superdelegate thinks his vote would be the best $20 million a candidate could ever spend. After all, he says, in 2004 John Kerry spent $1 billion to lose.
So this yahoo says that $20 mil is nothing. Well, it obviously is since Hillary is having to lend herself 6 million again. This guy doesn't care who he votes for, he just wants cash. That is pretty fucked up.
 
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Old 05-08-2008, 06:55 PM   #2
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You're right, he just wants the money....

His minds already made up:

HispanicTips » » A prominent member (Steven Ybarra, a California superdelegate) of the national Democratic Party has circulated a sharp e-mail saying the removal of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle was disloyal to Hispan
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Old 05-08-2008, 07:02 PM   #3
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I'm glad no one is calling him. What a retard.

I don't guess it's illegal though
 
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Old 05-08-2008, 07:54 PM   #4
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I'm glad no one is calling him. What a retard.

I don't guess it's illegal though

The dems need to really sit down and think long and hard about their nomination process.
 
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Old 05-08-2008, 08:32 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by TankRizzo View Post
The dems need to really sit down and think long and hard about their nomination process.
No kidding. Now that votes are being sold to the highest bidder. Wow.... I am amazed they allow it.
 
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Old 05-08-2008, 08:43 PM   #6
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This guy is just an attention whore who likes seeing his name in the news.

I hope he looses his delegate status over this.
 
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Old 05-09-2008, 07:46 AM   #7
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Its not extortion when you publicly announce it, right?
 
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:47 PM   #8
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It should be illegal. I hope someone leaves a flaming bag of poo on his lawn.
 
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Old 05-10-2008, 01:11 AM   #9
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He'll lose his delegate status. But not until after this election cycle--the party doesn't like publicly condemning people; it's bad PR. At the same time, selling a vote for whatever purpose violates enough rules to have your status stripped.
 
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Old 05-10-2008, 03:35 AM   #10
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SuperDs motives are like all the others...

Does anyone out there actually believe any SuperD votes on basis of best for the job? USA-Upto Stinking Armpits in CAPITALISM! Profit motive moves everything in this greed stricken nation, even sadly our Public Servants...(i.e.:PROFESSIONAL POLITICIANS). From day one of the inception of this government, an unabashed & continuous scramble for power & control has driven virtually every election, piece of legislation and foreign or domestic policy decision handed down to us (i.e.:PROFESSIONAL TAXPAYERS). Nothing these people do surprises me anymore, it just saddens me...
 
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Old 05-13-2008, 01:08 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by dsw View Post
Does anyone out there actually believe any SuperD votes on basis of best for the job? USA-Upto Stinking Armpits in CAPITALISM! Profit motive moves everything in this greed stricken nation, even sadly our Public Servants...(i.e.:PROFESSIONAL POLITICIANS). From day one of the inception of this government, an unabashed & continuous scramble for power & control has driven virtually every election, piece of legislation and foreign or domestic policy decision handed down to us (i.e.:PROFESSIONAL TAXPAYERS). Nothing these people do surprises me anymore, it just saddens me...
Capitalism is what made this country great.
 
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Old 05-13-2008, 03:10 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by thewise1 View Post
Capitalism is what made this country great.
Amen to that brother.
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