Rosie O'Donnell equates Radical Christianity to Radical Islam

JaJae · 09-16-2006, 12:20 PM

Hot Air » Blog Archive » Video: Rosie Sez ‘radical Christianity’ is just as ‘threatening’ as radical Islam

Video link of her nationally acclaimed show The View.

In this clip she touches on quite a few issues.

First she makes the claim of separation of church and state. But I guess we can leave that to another thread.

The real issue here is radical Christianity the same as radical Islam? Personally I think the idea is absurd. Obviously radical groups are similar in that they are radical. But the numbers of radical Islamics who want to kill in the name of religion vs radical Christians who want to kill in the name of religion isn't even close. And if you want to compare recent body counts you'll find a slant hugely in favor of Islam.

I think it's interesting that the people who argue the loudest and quickest against the Saddam and Hitler comparisons are the first ones to start comparing Islam to Christianity. In my book they aren't even on the same playing field.

Her exact quote is "Wait a minute. Radical Christianity is just as threatening as Radical Islam in a country like America." And then the audience claps and cheers.

And then we have some sense from another old lady on the show with an expensive perm who says, "But Christians are not threatening to kill us." Audience reaction... dead silence.

It's quite interesting to see the principles and ideals some people are starting to adopt.

ballz2wallz · 09-16-2006, 12:22 PM

First of all, there seem to be disputes between 'radical Christianity' and radical Islam. Many in this country think that our leader, George Bush, is a radical Christian. If they can equate that to the radical Islamists blowing us and others up, then all I can say is

garbagemanlb · 09-16-2006, 12:28 PM

I wouldn't equate the two, however I do personally believe radical christians are a threat to our democracy and our country.

JaJae · 09-16-2006, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

combine

lol I beat you by two minutes. Merging. Great minds think alike.

ballz2wallz · 09-16-2006, 02:02 PM

Well, I'm still curious to know how radical Christians like Bush are equated to radical Islamists like bin Laden.

JaJae · 09-16-2006, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Well, I'm still curious to know how radical Christians like Bush are equated to radical Islamists like bin Laden.

Because it makes you feel sorry for the terrorists. It shows they're really no different than many American sects that we deal with. We shouldn't treat them or think of them any differently than people who hold extreme Christian beliefs. Because after all radical Christians are responsible for the FCC and the War on Christmas debate... 9/11 has nothing on that.

JaJae · 09-16-2006, 02:12 PM

I dunno, I think what bothers me the most is that people heard her say the words and they clapped. First reaction was to agree and clap. It shows the collective opinion of America (or at least ABC studio audiences). It's disturbing that people would equate radical Christians with people who videotape themselves sawing off heads of conscious people.

The fact that anyone could agree... (and we have had this argument presented by members of this forum) seriously disgusts me.

ballz2wallz · 09-16-2006, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Because after all radical Christians are responsible for the FCC and War on Christman debate... 9/11 has nothing on that.

I love how they are even compared

ballz2wallz · 09-16-2006, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

I dunno, I think what bothers me the most is that people heard her say the words and they clapped. First reaction was to agree and clap. It shows the collective opinion of America (or at least ABC studio audiences). It's disturbing that people would equate radical Christians with people who videotape themselves sawing off heads of conscious people.

The fact that anyone could agree... (and we have had this argument presented by members of this forum) seriously disgusts me.

Good for the other ladies standing up again Rosie

Thorgrim · 09-16-2006, 02:49 PM

You said they didn't compare, want to count up how many judeo-christians and how many muslims have been killed in the 'war on terror' I think you'll find the figure is incredibly lopsided, but not in your favor

We have radical christians like Pat Robertson, Ann Coulter, etc who advocated killing muslim leaders and converting them...which sounds a lot like...terrorists!

Ofcourse officials that they advise don't come out and SAY IT, that would be impolitic, they simply fund wars and movements that will kill thousands of muslims

Unfortunately, Muslims do not have the military strength to attack the US head on, in fact, they couldn't even reach us, so naturally they use whatever methods they can to fight back

JaJae · 09-16-2006, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

You said they didn't compare, want to count up how many judeo-christians and how many muslims have been killed in the 'war on terror' I think you'll find the figure is incredibly lopsided, but not in your favor

We have radical christians like Pat Robertson, Ann Coulter, etc who advocated killing muslim leaders and converting them...which sounds a lot like...terrorists!

Ofcourse officials that they advise don't come out and SAY IT, that would be impolitic, they simply fund wars and movements that will kill thousands of muslims

Unfortunately, Muslims do not have the military strength to attack the US head on, in fact, they couldn't even reach us, so naturally they use whatever methods they can to fight back

I think if you count up who has been doing the killing... Radical Christians or Radical Muslims you'll see the figure is incredibly lopsided, but not in your favor.

You're dodging the point. Anne Coulter, Pat Robertson, etc are two people who have never killed another person. Let's talk figures here. I'm sure there are millions of Muslims in Iraq who talk about killing Americans and/or converting them. In fact, I'm willing to bet that percentage is a lot higher than here in America. Fortunately for us though, by your definition that doesn't make them radical, does it? Or the vast majority of people from certain nations would be considered Radical Muslims. Surely you don't think it's that widespread...

Thorgrim · 09-16-2006, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

I think if you count up who has been doing the killing... Radical Christians or Radical Muslims you'll see the figure is incredibly lopsided, but not in your favor.

You're dodging the point. Anne Coulter, Pat Robertson, etc are two people who have never killed another person. Let's talk figures here. I'm sure there are millions of Muslims in Iraq who talk about killing Americans and/or converting them. In fact, I'm willing to bet that percentage is a lot higher than here in America. Fortunately for us though, by your definition that doesn't make them radical, does it? Or the vast majority of people from certain nations would be considered Radical Muslims. Surely you don't think it's that widespread...

Why would radical christians travel to Iraq to kill muslims...why not simply keep electing Republicans who will have the military/CIA do it.

And your ideas about Iraq are...amusing

You really don't think there is a strong evangelical movement in America?

ballz2wallz · 09-16-2006, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

You really don't think there is a strong evangelical movement in America?

Is it a violent movement? If not, then it's hardly relevant, isn't it?

JaJae · 09-16-2006, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Why would radical christians travel to Iraq to kill muslims...why not simply keep electing Republicans who will have the military/CIA do it.

And your ideas about Iraq are...amusing

You really don't think there is a strong evangelical movement in America?

Strong evangelical movement in America who wishes to kill Muslims? There's almost 10 million Muslims in this country... how many have had their heads chopped off?

And of course Radical Christians wouldn't travel halfway across the world to kill people who don't follow their religious beliefs. That's left to the Radical Muslims of this world and only them that I'm aware of.

And I never mentioned Iraq. Not once. You're dodging.

Thorgrim · 09-16-2006, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Is it a violent movement? If not, then it's hardly relevant, isn't it?

Yes it is

JaJae · 09-16-2006, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Is it a violent movement? If not, then it's hardly relevant, isn't it?

It's irrelevent in comparison the Radical Muslims. It's interesting how we can make a post everyday showing the number of people who die in the middle east each day due to Radical Islamic beliefs, yet have no problem comparing it to the evangelical movement in America and Anne Coulter... this really is getting interesting.

Thorgrim · 09-16-2006, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

And I never mentioned Iraq. Not once. You're dodging.

Originally Posted by JaJae

I'm sure there are millions of Muslims in Iraq who talk about killing Americans and/or converting them

Strong evangelical movement in America who wishes to kill Muslims? There's almost 10 million Muslims in this country... how many have had their heads chopped off?

Iran has tens of thousands of Jews who live in peace...Iran is the most radical Islamic state in existance...unless you want to make the argument that they are moderates and examples to other muslims?

And of course Radical Christians wouldn't travel halfway across the world to kill people who don't follow their religious beliefs. That's left to the Radical Muslims of this world and only them that I'm aware of.

No, its left to their party and its policies to kill those who don't follow their religious beliefs

and conservatives have killed far more americans than muslims (lynchings, abortion clinic bombings, etc), and before 9/11 the largest single attack was by white conservative males in OKC

9/11 was frowned upon even by radical islamists, he only became popular when the US went after him and couldn't capture him because Bush fucked up (again)

ballz2wallz · 09-16-2006, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Is it (the current evangelical movement) a violent movement? If not, then it's hardly relevant, isn't it?

Yes it is

Quoted for comedic value.

Thorgrim · 09-16-2006, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

It's irrelevent in comparison the Radical Muslims. It's interesting how we can make a post everyday showing the number of people who die in the middle east each day due to Radical Islamic beliefs, yet have no problem comparing it to the evangelical movement in America and Anne Coulter... this really is getting interesting.

every muslim with radical beliefs is a terrorist?

Strange, out of 1 billion muslims, only a few thousand are actual terrorists if we are to believe our GOP-run government, are you saying out of 1 billion muslims, there are only a few thousand radicals?