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Old 05-13-2008, 07:32 PM   #1
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2 things that have suprised me so far about the Democrat Primary

1. I believe that Bill Clinton helped to elect Obama, everytime he opened his mouth it hurt Hillary.

2. The unbelievable amout of money that Obama has raised. He outspent Hillary 2-1 in WVA, a state that he basically wrote off.
 
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Old 05-13-2008, 07:53 PM   #2
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I agre with number 1 every time Bill was in the news for a while there it helped Obama. I don't know if it was intentional or not but there is no denying he hurt Hillary.
As for outspending her in WVA he has money to burn now and only so much time to spend it.
 
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Old 05-13-2008, 08:30 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by northhunter View Post
As for outspending her in WVA he has money to burn now and only so much time to spend it.
But where did all the money come from? He says he wants money out of politics and doesn't like special interests, so where did all the money come from?
 
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Old 05-13-2008, 08:59 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by kinggovernor View Post
But where did all the money come from? He says he wants money out of politics and doesn't like special interests, so where did all the money come from?
He has a following like Ron Paul supporters, only a hell of a lot more of them.
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Old 05-14-2008, 02:27 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by kinggovernor View Post
But where did all the money come from?
Just a buck at a time from 50 million little guys?

Sounds like a fish story; the longer it goes on the bigger it gets.
At some point It might to start to smell.

I'd look into it if I were a investigative journalist, unless my editor thinks it might hurt the race, which translates into papers sold, and lord knows the newspaper business needs the revenue.

On a cold November day not very far away, we'll discover whiether his people can vote as well as they donate.

Unless the dough is coming from overseas? Now there's a scary thought!

But look at the bright side, he's bringing in cash which counters the trade imbalance, and we import everything else, so why not the chief executive

Just mulling it over,
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Old 05-14-2008, 05:13 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by kinggovernor View Post
1. I believe that Bill Clinton helped to elect Obama, everytime he opened his mouth it hurt Hillary.

2. The unbelievable amout of money that Obama has raised. He outspent Hillary 2-1 in WVA, a state that he basically wrote off.
No way McCain is going to be able to keep up with his fundraising in the fall..

Especially if he follows the law and is limited to public funding like he should be, but I think he'll manage to weasel his way out of it..

And I think if Bill had stayed home most of the time, or played a more traditional spouse role, Hillary would have done a lot better, and I think there definitely wouldn't have been as big of a rallying around Obama by the black community as there has been

And lets be honest, without that, the matches would have been much closer, and I think Hillary would have probably won some of those she had lost.
 
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Old 05-14-2008, 11:19 PM   #7
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No way McCain is going to be able to keep up with his fundraising in the fall..

Especially if he follows the law and is limited to public funding like he should be, but I think he'll manage to weasel his way out of it..

And I think if Bill had stayed home most of the time, or played a more traditional spouse role, Hillary would have done a lot better, and I think there definitely wouldn't have been as big of a rallying around Obama by the black community as there has been

And lets be honest, without that, the matches would have been much closer, and I think Hillary would have probably won some of those she had lost.
AS RECENTLY as November, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) was unequivocal about whether he would agree to take public financing for the general election if his Republican opponent pledged to do the same. "If you are nominated for president in 2008 and your major opponents agree to forgo private funding in the general election campaign, will you participate in the presidential public financing system?" the Midwest Democracy Network asked in a questionnaire. Mr. Obama's answer was clear. "Yes," he wrote. "If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election."

Or maybe not. Mr. Obama deserves credit for obtaining a ruling from the Federal Election Commission that allowed him to raise money for the general election campaign but reserve the right to return the funds if he were to win the nomination and manage to arrange a cease-fire with the other side. That outcome, once improbable, is now within reach. The presumptive Republican nominee, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, agreed long ago to Mr. Obama's deal, back when his prospects for securing the nomination seemed slim. Mr. McCain's campaign manager, Rick Davis, reaffirmed that pledge this week at a lunch with reporters sponsored by the Christian Science Monitor.

Mr. Obama's Waffle - washingtonpost.com

I don't think either candidate should use public financing, I think it is undemocratic but it would be interesting to see both of use it.

I don't know if there is a traditional role of the spouse in a Presidential election, Obama's wife is in the public and her off-handed haven't seemed to hurt him. I think he just stepped over the line and it cost Hillary.
 
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Old 05-14-2008, 11:20 PM   #8
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McCain should technically be forced to, since he used it as collateral for a loan when his campaign was faltering.
 
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