US Occupation jails AP photographer for 5 months and refuses to charge him

[Thorgrim]

The U.S. military in Iraq has imprisoned an Associated Press photographer for five months, accusing him of being a security threat but never filing charges or permitting a public hearing.

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Hussein is one of an estimated 14,000 people detained by the U.S. military worldwide — 13,000 of them in Iraq. They are held in limbo where few are ever charged with a specific crime or given a chance before any court or tribunal to argue for their freedom.

In Hussein's case, the military has not provided any concrete evidence to back up the vague allegations they have raised about him, Curley and other AP executives said.


U.S. holds AP photographer in Iraq 5 mos - Yahoo! News

What a sad and cruel system, detaining Iraqi citizens for months without charging them, and now we're trying to impose a court system which denies them the right to hear evidence or any reasonable method to defend themselves.

Their only defense is that he had "relationships" with people who were involved in militias...after almost 4 years of occupation and civil war is there ANYONE left in Iraqi that doesn't have some ties to a militia

Like Colin Powell said, this is getting to the point where we are losing our moral basis for conducting a war on terrorism

[SpicyMcVoodoo]

I don't know why more americans aren't disturbed by the fact we've set up a quasi-gulag network.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo

I don't know why more americans aren't disturbed by the fact we've set up a quasi-gulag network.

This article is the first article to actually get me visibly angry (although not to you guys ofcourse)

[SpicyMcVoodoo]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

This article is the first article to actually get me visibly angry (although not to you guys ofcourse)

I also read this today:

U.S. war prisons legal vacuum for 14,000 - Yahoo! News

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo

I also read this today:

U.S. war prisons legal vacuum for 14,000 - Yahoo! News

What annoys me is when people twist the law to make an obviously unjust act seem just and use such horrible logic and legal reasoning that nothing but a kangaroo court would accept it

It's barely tolerable that the US is doing such in Iraq, because at least its an Iraqi court...but for us to be conducting ourselves like that...its outrageous and goes against every fair principle of common law this nation was founded upon

[SoFlaJDM]

hussein? we should have shot him months ago

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

What annoys me is when people twist the law

what law?

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

what law?

The same law that made Abu Gharaib a crime

The rule of law is everywhere

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

The same law that made Abu Gharaib a crime

The rule of law is everywhere

usmcj?

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

usmcj?

there is more to life than the USMCJ

[SpicyMcVoodoo]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

what law?

I don't pretend to be an expert on this area of the law, but it seems to go against every principle this nation was founded on to have a network of gulags where we hold people indefinitely without any due process and we can pretty much throw in anyone we want. Whether or not this is legally permissible under some loophole is really beside the point.

This is the sort of thing we demonize past and present totalitarian regimes for, and now we're doing it ourselves. And the shallow rationalization for all this is that we're at "war," yet the "war" we're in cannot ever be won. Even worse than that is the excuse that our conditions are relatively pleasant in these prisons, as if being treated like a human is any consolation for being locked in a cage and having the key thrown away.

[Thorgrim]

It's like Gen. Powell said, we are losing the moral basis to fight a war against terrorists

[Diesel66]

Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo

I don't pretend to be an expert on this area of the law, but it seems to go against every principle this nation was founded on to have a network of gulags where we hold people indefinitely without any due process and we can pretty much throw in anyone we want. Whether or not this is legally permissible under some loophole is really beside the point.

Geneva Conventions is a loophole ?

[SpicyMcVoodoo]

Originally Posted by Diesel66

Geneva Conventions is a loophole ?

No, trying to reinterpret them to avoid them is.

[Diesel66]

Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo

No, trying to reinterpret them to avoid them is.

Dont need to reinterpret them. It allows us to put anyone captured on the battlefield into a camp for the duration of the war.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Diesel66

Dont need to reinterpret them. It allows us to put anyone captured on the battlefield into a camp for the duration of the war.

It's an occupation, you can't just treat their citizens like shit and throw people in jail on speculation and conjecture

[Diesel66]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

It's an occupation, you can't just treat their citizens like shit and throw people in jail on speculation and conjecture

So when did we sign the cease fire ?

[SpicyMcVoodoo]

Originally Posted by Diesel66

So when did we sign the cease fire ?

With whom could you sign a cease fire?

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by Diesel66

So when did we sign the cease fire ?

When did we declare war?

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Diesel66

So when did we sign the cease fire ?