Drilling in ANWR would only save us 75 cents per barrel... 10 YEARS from now.

[6SpeedTA95]

Originally Posted by motivez

That's not nearly as cheap to extract though, right?

Yes sir thats exactly right. Up until 60 dollar oil shale wasn't considered viable. But at 60, 80, 100 and 120 dollar oil it is very viable and if the president and other politicians would be honest with the american people I think the vast majority of america would be ok with high prices.

Think about it, if the president or anyone for that matter said "we have 250 billion barrels of extractable US oil in shale and off the OCS but it will cost us an average of 125 dollars a barrel the next 20 years to get it" I think we'd go for it. Thats US oil, US jobs and independance from middle eastern sources of oil. We could strengthen ties with Canada and Mexico and even some middle/south american countries (brazil comes to mind) while simultaneous decreasing our dependance on terrorist nations and decreasing our presence in the middle east.

Unfortunately we dont have politicians with the understanding of the industry or the balls/knowledge to do it.

[6SpeedTA95]

Originally Posted by Darlin

I suggest - and it is only a suggestion, that people quit whing about the cost of oil if they can't whine about the cost of every other thing they think they "need".

Does ayone who bitches about oil know the cost to explore, drill, abide by ridiculous regulations, provide a needed commodity, one that everyone needs, while being demonized for doing so?

Has anyone asked Juan Valdez why I'm paying $11.75 for a pound of sub-standard coffee? Has anyone asked Macy's why I'm paying $200.00 for a size 6 peice of cotton? Has anyone asked why I pay 14.00 for 144 oz of beer? Has anyone asked why I pay $7.25 a lb. for beef?

Politicians are CLUELESS about this industry, for the most part individuals on BOTH sides of the isle are clueless. Instead they care only about getting elected. Kennedy was all for wind until they wanted to put wind in mass and more wind off the coast. Then it was unacceptable.

There have been probably 20 or 25 articles on energy this week in the WSJ, we have plenty of energy in this country but the politicians want to pander to special interest so we can't get the oil, natural gas, wind, nuclear and hydro power that are in abundance in our own nation! Not to mention coal that can be burned using clean coal technology that is VERY clean!

[Darlin]

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

Politicians are CLUELESS about this industry, for the most part individuals on BOTH sides of the isle are clueless. Instead they care only about getting elected. Kennedy was all for wind until they wanted to put wind in mass and more wind off the coast. Then it was unacceptable.

There have been probably 20 or 25 articles on energy this week in the WSJ, we have plenty of energy in this country but the politicians want to pander to special interest so we can't get the oil, natural gas, wind, nuclear and hydro power that are in abundance in our own nation! Not to mention coal that can be burned using clean coal technology that is VERY clean!

Because, there is a bigger picture according to the politicos. Their picture: the picture that creates dissent among the people, the picture that makes idiots hate that which helps make them free. . . is a tool for those who seek power.

I know how that sounds. I also know that I'll be one of those who survives, because "Homey don't play that shit"..

[Rouger2]

Originally Posted by Darlin

I suggest - and it is only a suggestion, that people quit whing about the cost of oil if they can't whine about the cost of every other thing they think they "need".

Does ayone who bitches about oil know the cost to explore, drill, abide by ridiculous regulations, provide a needed commodity, one that everyone needs, while being demonized for doing so?

Has anyone asked Juan Valdez why I'm paying $11.75 for a pound of sub-standard coffee? Has anyone asked Macy's why I'm paying $200.00 for a size 6 peice of cotton? Has anyone asked why I pay 14.00 for 144 oz of beer? Has anyone asked why I pay $7.25 a lb. for beef?

I guess you don't know what we do here. Whineing is very acceptable, and in doing it we might just get close to the truth. I think we are hitting a nerve so we might just be getting close to the truth.