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Old 09-20-2006, 06:35 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
Exactly. And that's why they threaten us.
To take away freedom? Isn't that why anyone threatens anyone?
 
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Old 09-20-2006, 06:52 AM   #42
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Originally Posted by beez View Post
I'm already losing it slowly but surely. It starts small, with smoking bans in public places....
so... the terrorists are the cause of the smoking bans?

Then there are the other abuses that are out there which could happen to anyone (warrantless wiretapping, chargeless detention, secret trial evidence).
anyone with ties to a terrorist organization. and how many people have been detained and later found to be innocent? i'll have to look into it some more. but... i believe the numbers are very few.
 
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Old 09-20-2006, 06:53 AM   #43
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Originally Posted by Kytro View Post
To take away freedom? Isn't that why anyone threatens anyone?
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Old 09-20-2006, 07:20 AM   #44
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Originally Posted by phreak View Post
no
Attempting to change behaviour or influence action is reducing freedom
 
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Old 09-20-2006, 08:31 AM   #45
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
i keep hitting refresh, but I don't see any links, an argument or graphs loading

I'll try using firefox, brb
iraq iran
 
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Old 09-20-2006, 09:50 AM   #46
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Originally Posted by kinggovernor View Post
iraq iran


How has invading Iraq reduced our threat of being nuked?

And I'm not sure you want to bring up Iran. We have done nothing on that front.
 
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Old 09-20-2006, 12:35 PM   #47
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Iraq was not a nuke threat and we have done nothing but talk about Iran or NK. We have done virtually nothing to combat a nuclear threat from abroad, other than if you consider the makeshift missile defense shield, which really is not effective enough at this point to consider a defense.
 
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