Al Gore is a raging hypocrite.

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by tbone

You all act like this is a simple comparing of apples to apples. Wickedlou is right. My own electric bill increased this year due to doing more printing at home of reports for work and more computer usage as part of my job.

If Al Gore's usage increased due to research to combat global warming or due to printing off reports on a printer he bought to be more energy efficient than taking his reports to kinkos, then it's kind of a null point isn't it.

Comparing such things is equivalent to saying George Bush spent more time out of the office this year than any other president in history. Without context it looks like he is a slacker, but if he was traveling to meet leaders in their own country and attending summits, he may have actually worked harder this year than any year in his term.

Data without context is useless dribble for people looking to score a quick political point. Partisan lemmings tend to jump on the bandwagon, as evidenced in this thread. Most intelligent people, who are not blinded by party affiliation, can see right though it.

It's not just that his bill went up, it's that it's so grossly high and he was called on this previously and he has shown he has done little to nothing to rectify it. He seems to be of the opinion that he can waste as much energy as he desires because he invests his money into clean stocks or because he planted a tree.

To me that's absurd and shows a complete lack of personal commitment to the environment when he's telling us we need to re-evaluate the way that we live.

The reality is Al Gore uses over 220,000 kilowatt-hours of electricity per year. To put this into perspective, I used to work for a multiplex cinema.

We had an arcade, popcorn poppers, popcorn warmers, candy displays, cappuccino, icee makers, refrigerators, freezers, party rooms, projectors (motors, 1500+w bulbs, sound equipment, platters), poster displays, lights out the wazzoo, 10 or so AC units, HVAC to suck the heat out of the projectors, three offices, LCD projectors, etc. The building itself is 90 years old and completely energy inefficient. All of our stuff ran around the clock (currently open 10am - 1am daily[15 hrs], plus cleanup crew times) and our utility bill was comparable to Al Gore's. In my opinion, there is just no possible way a home, even as large as the one Al Gore lives in could possibly rack up such a huge energy bill unless he was being completely wasteful and negligent to his power usage. He thinks he can be as wasteful as he wants as long as he invests his money into green stocks. I have a problem with that considering he is influencing our politicians and trying to tell us how to live.

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by JaJae

The reality is Al Gore uses over 220,000 kilowatt-hours of electricity per year. To put this into perspective, I used to work for a multiplex cinema.

We had an arcade, popcorn poppers, popcorn warmers, candy displays, cappuccino, icee makers, refrigerators, freezers, party rooms, projectors (motors, 1500+w bulbs, sound equipment, platters), poster displays, lights out the wazzoo, 10 or so AC units, HVAC to suck the heat out of the projectors, three offices, LCD projectors, etc. The building itself is 90 years old and completely energy inefficient. All of our stuff ran around the clock (currently open 10am - 1am daily[15 hrs], plus cleanup crew times) and our utility bill was comparable to Al Gore's. In my opinion, there is just no possible way a home, even as large as the one Al Gore lives in could possibly rack up such a huge energy bill unless he was being completely wasteful and negligent to his power usage. He thinks he can be as wasteful as he wants as long as he invests his money into green stocks. I have a problem with that considering he is influencing our politicians and trying to tell us how to live.

Holy Crap!

[6SpeedTA95]

I just looked up my utilities from last year. I used 9380 KwH last year. Thats for my 1900 sq foot house that requires a LOT of AC use in the summer time. It's also an old house with single pane windows so its not a very efficient house. Granted we've taken some steps to reduce our usage but even prior to these steps we only used about 11,500 KwH

[6SpeedTA95]

Originally Posted by tbone

You all act like this is a simple comparing of apples to apples. Wickedlou is right. My own electric bill increased this year due to doing more printing at home of reports for work and more computer usage as part of my job.

If Al Gore's usage increased due to research to combat global warming or due to printing off reports on a printer he bought to be more energy efficient than taking his reports to kinkos, then it's kind of a null point isn't it.

Comparing such things is equivalent to saying George Bush spent more time out of the office this year than any other president in history. Without context it looks like he is a slacker, but if he was traveling to meet leaders in their own country and attending summits, he may have actually worked harder this year than any year in his term.

Data without context is useless dribble for people looking to score a quick political point. Partisan lemmings tend to jump on the bandwagon, as evidenced in this thread. Most intelligent people, who are not blinded by party affiliation, can see right though it.

I dont think you understand how much energy he uses. Its outrageous. He could run his fucking printer 24 hours a day and it wouldn't use that much energy in a year.

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

I just looked up my utilities from last year. I used 9380 KwH last year. Thats for my 1900 sq foot house that requires a LOT of AC use in the summer time. It's also an old house with single pane windows so its not a very efficient house. Granted we've taken some steps to reduce our usage but even prior to these steps we only used about 11,500 KwH

Al Gore uses as much energy in one day as I use in about 1 month and he wants to lecture me about my lifestyle and energy consumption and act as if he cares about the environment.

[7960]

Originally Posted by JaJae

Al Gore uses as much energy in one day as I use in about 1 month and he wants to lecture me about my lifestyle and energy consumption and act as if he cares about the environment.

Hey, step off man.

He founded a company in england that hired a company in india to plant mango trees to offset his carbon footprint! How many trees have you planted?

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by 7960

Hey, step off man.

He founded a company in england that hired a company in india to plant mango trees to offset his carbon footprint! How many trees have you planted?

[Donkey®]

I don't think people who don't do anything to help the environment should be critical of people who at least do something...seems hypocritical to me.

[A_C_E]

Not to rain on the parade, because the "Gore is a hypocrite people" have a lot to stand on.

Yes, he does use the same amount of power in a year as 19 regular-sized houses. His home/office complex is also 19,000 square feet (I looked it up on the Tennessee property database for a different thread in ), so it should be assumed that he'll use way more energy than an average person.

I'm guessing this is all a repost anyway.

[7960]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

I don't think people who don't do anything to help the environment should be critical of people who at least do something...seems hypocritical to me.

I hope you're not talking to me.

When I change my oil I pour all 5 quarts of the oil in the pond behind my house. This last time I only poured 2.5 quarts in the pond but I brought the other 2.5 quarts to the recycling place.

In Gore-land that makes me an environmentalist.

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by 7960

I hope you're not talking to me.

When I change my oil I pour all 5 quarts of the oil in the pond behind my house. This last time I only poured 2.5 quarts in the pond but I brought the other 2.5 quarts to the recycling place.

In Gore-land that makes me an environmentalist.

Your car only holds 5 quarts? Gore's takes 30...yet you claim he should use less than you.

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

I don't think people who don't do anything to help the environment should be critical of people who at least do something...seems hypocritical to me.

Who is he to judge though? That's the problem I have. This is like the head of PETA eating a 15,000 calorie daily diet off purely meat and telling me I should stop eating meat because it would be better for the world when I only eat 750 calories of meat per day.

This is the problem I have here. He goes before our government and tells everyone in our country that we have to re-evaluate the way WE live or else the ocean levels will rise above Mt. Everest, famine will spread to 99.9% of the world, we'll lose all our polar bears and every other cute animal we can think of and we'll all die a hot painful death after the latest tsunami and hurricane comes in to wipe our country away. He believes we're literally destroying our earth entirely because we are wasting energy and using more CO2 than we should. Yet he uses as much CO2 as a city block. I have a problem with that. He has no business telling my government how it should regulate my life when he does that.

On a related note, Al Sharpton has done some good in the world. That doesn't absolve him of his hypocritical behavior. I think he's a jackass despite the good he has done. I can say the same thing for Al Gore. Everyone seems to get so uptight when Al Gore is called out for his crap. He has designated himself as the speaker to save the world and should have to answer for his hypocritical behavior.

Imagine if pro-life leaders were running around having abortions every weekend. Or peace speakers like Cindy Sheehan were privately funding militia groups, etc. We'd all be on here calling them out for their blatant hypocrisy. Yet when Al Gore violates the very principles he stands so strongly for all of a sudden the people who call him out on it are the ones attacked. "What have you done?" "Who are you to judge?" Etc.

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by JaJae

Who is he to judge though? That's the problem I have.

Then who the fuck is everyone else to judge him? I SEE him out doing shit about it. He can at LEAST say that.

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Your car only holds 5 quarts? Gore's takes 30...yet you claim he should use less than you.

I have no problem with Al Gore being wealthy and having a large home. I think it's slightly strange that he would live in that fashion when he is criticizing everyone else's lifestyle and telling us to scale back, but whatever. I'll give him he's rich and want to live a wealthy lifestyle. But even still, there is no excuse for a bill that large. You couldn't tell me with a straight face that he has done anything to curb his energy consumption when he has a bill that high. And the fact that it's going up and not down is appalling.

[Stylerod]

Originally Posted by A_C_E

Not to rain on the parade, because the "Gore is a hypocrite people" have a lot to stand on.

Yes, he does use the same amount of power in a year as 19 regular-sized houses. His home/office complex is also 19,000 square feet (I looked it up on the Tennessee property database for a different thread in ), so it should be assumed that he'll use way more energy than an average person.

I'm guessing this is all a repost anyway.

Did he make an addition to his home or something? Why is he using more energy instead of less this year?


Man, John Edwards new home is 28,200 square feet. I wonder how much his energy bill is

[A_C_E]

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Did he make an addition to his home or something? Why is he using more energy instead of less this year?


Man, John Edwards new home is 28,200 square feet. I wonder how much his energy bill is

I wondered this too.

It wouldn't surprise me if his consumption got a one-year bump based on all the work he had done to convert his house to green. Putting in new windows, doors, solar panels, geothermal power, etc. Obviously the construction+equipment alone would have sucked down tons of energy considering him complex is so enormous.

I'm betting his usage goes way down next year.

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Then who the fuck is everyone else to judge him? I SEE him out doing shit about it. He can at LEAST say that.

He's like the trailer park busy body running around telling everyone how to live their lives when he's not following his own advice. So now I'm the person saying that before he can intrude his morals onto my life through force of government that he should put his money where his mouth is and take is own advice or stfu. I'm responding to him. There are many other people in this country who I'm sure place no value in conserving energy in their lives, but he's the only one I know of who is going on TV looking to lecture our nation and convince our federal government to regulate my life to his hypocritical morality. And to that I say screw him.

If the head of PETA was getting on TV and making millions off a message of animal rights and trying to convince our nation to go vegetarian while topping off three nightly T-bone steaks I'd tell him to go screw himself. There is no reason he should be going to the federal government to convince regulation to change my lifestyle when he's violating his own morality to a completely absurd level. And when his response is "Well I fed a few cows today so I'm neutralized," I'd tell him go screw himself for that as well. To me there is no difference between that and what Al Gore is doing.

[7960]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Your car only holds 5 quarts? Gore's takes 30...yet you claim he should use less than you.

I didn't say he should use less than me.

I said, if he thinks I should reduce my usage, that he should reduce his.

I guess it's just too bad that he increased his by 10%.

[6SpeedTA95]

Everyone saying his home had a bump in consumption this year needs to do some homework..whether or not it had a bump is irrelevant. The guy is trying to tell you and I we cause pollution adn we need to change our lifestyles in the meantime he uses more electricity OFF THE GRID in one year than my home does in 25! Thats outrageous for someone as preach as he is.

Also if I remember right is consumption last year was similar, didn't we have a thread about this a year ago? With similar numbers? I think we did!