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Old 06-17-2008, 11:23 PM   #1
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Al Gore is a raging hypocrite.

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NASHVILLE - In the year since Al Gore took steps to make his home more energy-efficient, the former Vice President’s home energy use surged more than 10%, according to the Tennessee Center for Policy Research.

A man’s commitment to his beliefs is best measured by what he does behind the closed doors of his own home,” said Drew Johnson, President of the Tennessee Center for Policy Research. “Al Gore is a hypocrite and a fraud when it comes to his commitment to the environment, judging by his home energy consumption.”

In the past year, Gore’s home burned through 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity, enough to power 232 average American households for a month.

http://tennesseepolicy.org/main/arti...article_id=764
If the face of the anti-abortion movement was out there having abortions every month I think people would tell her to stfu.
If the face of the war on drugs was busted smoking crack I think people would tell him to stfu.
If chris hanson was caught trying to solicit a minor I think people would tell him to stfu.

Al, stfu.
 
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Old 06-17-2008, 11:26 PM   #2
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Old 06-17-2008, 11:29 PM   #3
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I wonder if the media will report on this as they would when a Republican is caught being a hypocrite.
 
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Old 06-17-2008, 11:29 PM   #4
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But how was his energy generated? If he used 230megawatts all from solar/wind who cares?

I'm not defending him, the guy is obviously a hypocrite and you dont have to look far to see it, just saying, where and how he gets his energ is necessary in addition to simply how much of it he uses.
 
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Old 06-17-2008, 11:30 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
I wonder if the media will report on this as they would when a Republican is caught being a hypocrite.
No they wont report it, they didn't report it a couple years ago when it was made public that NONE Of his energy at the time was coming from renewables despite wind options in his area.
 
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Old 06-17-2008, 11:33 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post
But how was his energy generated? If he used 230megawatts all from solar/wind who cares?

I'm not defending him, the guy is obviously a hypocrite and you dont have to look far to see it, just saying, where and how he gets his energ is necessary in addition to simply how much of it he uses.
The Tennessee Center for Policy Research, a Nashville-based free market think tank and watchdog organization, obtained information about Gore’s home energy use through a public records request to the Nashville Electric Service.
They would only know about the energy use that spun his meter so I believe that number is what he's pulling off the grid.
 
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Old 06-17-2008, 11:35 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by 7960 View Post
The Tennessee Center for Policy Research, a Nashville-based free market think tank and watchdog organization, obtained information about Gore’s home energy use through a public records request to the Nashville Electric Service.
They would only know about the energy use that spun his meter so I believe that number is what he's pulling off the grid.
But he gives himself money for carbon offsets. It's a great scheme really. He starts up a company and then has people give him money to invest in the stock market to turn a profit on it off "green companies." So to offset his carbon he just invests his money in the stock market and makes a return. Now that's clever. Most rich people just invest in stocks to turn a profit. Al Gore does it to turn a profit and to be a hypocrite at the same time.
 
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Old 06-17-2008, 11:47 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by 7960 View Post
The Tennessee Center for Policy Research, a Nashville-based free market think tank and watchdog organization, obtained information about Gore’s home energy use through a public records request to the Nashville Electric Service.
They would only know about the energy use that spun his meter so I believe that number is what he's pulling off the grid.
Yes thats correct, but if its like some of the Oklahoma utilities you can opt into renewables. For example OG&E and PSO both offer wind options if you live in Tulsa or Oklahoma city.

Algore was offered wind as an options a few years ago and he declined


But you're right its coming off the grid the question is how much is he getting via wind/solar and how much from coal or whatever their primary source of power is. Also, I think its funny as rich/loaded as Algore is that he doesn't have his own windmill(s) or solar panels. He's a hypocrite, end of story.
 
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Old 06-17-2008, 11:59 PM   #9
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Ok NES has NO generation capacity they get it all from TVA. TVA generates just over 15,000 megawatts of their 32000 peak megawatts from coal. Only 6000 megawatts come from natural gas. Nuclear, hydro, wind combined can add 10,000 megawatts with 550 megawatts available from quick start natural gas plants.
 
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I guess you conservatives are getting desperate for news huh? Looking at Al Gore's electric bill? What a joke.
 
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I guess you conservatives are getting desperate for news huh? Looking at Al Gore's electric bill? What a joke.
1. I'm not a conservative, and

2. this said it way better than I every could. “A man’s commitment to his beliefs is best measured by what he does behind the closed doors of his own home. Al Gore is a hypocrite and a fraud when it comes to his commitment to the environment...”
 
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Originally Posted by 7960 View Post
1. I'm not a conservative, and

2. this said it way better than I every could. “A man’s commitment to his beliefs is best measured by what he does behind the closed doors of his own home. Al Gore is a hypocrite and a fraud when it comes to his commitment to the environment...”
That's horse pucky. You can't simply look at one persons electric bill for one year and assume that he's a hypocrite. That's just retarded. I used more electricity last year than the year before. You can look at my electric bill and see that. Does that mean I don't care about the environment? Oh maybe there is a reason.. I had a baby. Using more electricity was unaviodable. Maybe last year was hotter or cooler than the year before. maybe he traded a gas dryer for an electric one. Maybe he traded a gas range for a more efficent electric one.

This is a meaningless attack piece and it's worth the paper that I just wiped by butt with. I can't believe seemingly intelligent people fall for this crap hook line and sinker.
 
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I almost tried to care. Besides me lack of real interest, boredom at work cause me to read the link stating he added solar panels to his house a geothermal heating system and other renovations. So which are his actions, his final electricity bill? or his actions.
 
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Originally Posted by WickedLou9 View Post
That's horse pucky. You can't simply look at one persons electric bill for one year and assume that he's a hypocrite.
When the last decade of his life has been focused on telling me I need to preserve, conserve, cut back, reduce, re-use, recycle and then he INCREASES from 20x what I use to 22x, yes I simply can look at his electric bill and make a judgment.
 
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I almost tried to care. Besides me lack of real interest, boredom at work cause me to read the link stating he added solar panels to his house a geothermal heating system and other renovations. So which are his actions, his final electricity bill? or his actions.
you mean his actions of using 20x the amount of electricity while telling the world to reduce their usage then throwing some solar panels on after his hypocrisy is pointed out?
 
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A simple "no" would have sufficed.
 
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Old 06-18-2008, 11:14 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by WickedLou9 View Post
I guess you conservatives are getting desperate for news huh? Looking at Al Gore's electric bill? What a joke.
It should bother anyone that cares about the planet.
 
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Old 06-18-2008, 11:21 AM   #18
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
But he gives himself money for carbon offsets. It's a great scheme really. He starts up a company and then has people give him money to invest in the stock market to turn a profit on it off "green companies." So to offset his carbon he just invests his money in the stock market and makes a return. Now that's clever. Most rich people just invest in stocks to turn a profit. Al Gore does it to turn a profit and to be a hypocrite at the same time.
he "gets" carbon offsets for himself (and their employees) from a london-based company......a company he formed with a partner. They buy carbon offsets from Carbon Neutral Company, formerly Future Forests. Future Forests was bashed for claiming all they needed to do was plant trees in india to offset carbon elsewhere in the world. So they changed their name and now they also look at technology to solve the problem.

In other words gore's company GIVES him carbon credits as part of being part of the company so when he says he lives a "carbon neutral life" he might as well be saying "I still dump gallons of oil in *this* lake but I formed a company to clean up a lake somewhere in asia so it's a wash."

Asshole.
 
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Originally Posted by 7960 View Post
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A simple "no" would have sufficed.







BTW, why is Congress even asking him to pledge to do anything? "Hay guys, let's not focus on protecting our troops or relieving tax burdens on Americans to help with the coming depression...instead let's accuse Gore of being a hypocrite and look into steroids in baseball! LULZ"
 
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BTW, why is Congress even asking him to pledge to do anything?
valid question, but part of a completely different discussion.
 
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