Lets talk Vice Presidential picks

[motivez]

I was wondering who you guys would like to see as the VP pick for the candidate you'll support, and if you think that person is unlikely, who's more realistic?

For Obama.. obviously I think he's going to pick someone with a military background of some sort in order to negate the military experience of McCain..

It definitely benefits him to say that on military matters, he has someone at his side with the same amount of (or more) military experience than John McCain since he doesn't have any directly.

I think he'll also pick someone who's got some credibility with Clinton voters, in some of those rural states.. I don't think it's going to be a woman, but I think they'll definitely be white

I think he should pick General Wesley Clark above anyone else. He has the military background, he's popular, he was a very ardent supporter of Clinton's, and I think he'd make an excellent choice considering how much of the next President's time will be spent on military matters.

I think it's also a realistic choice. I know people have been clamoring about Biden for the last week or two, but really.. he's got chronic foot in mouth disease, and Obama can't afford that.

He also, like Clinton, has spent a lifetime in Washington. How can he say he's about change if his number 2 has spent a good portion of his professional life in Washington?

I also don't think he'll pick Richardson.. while the man has an incredible resume, he's a horrible debater and would undercut the charisma that Obama has on the ticket.

I've heard some rumblings about maybe picking Chuck Hagel.. I think that's an interesting pick, but I don't know how realistic it is.

I hope that regardless, he puts independent minded Republicans (ie: Not people who've been Bush's yes men for the last 8 years) in his cabinet.

As far as McCain.. I really don't know who's out there for him. Maybe he could pick Lieberman and run a bi-partisan ticket..

I think he should probably pick someone younger than he is, he's so old he has to have some youth on the ticket.. someone with energy and more charisma than he has.

I think if he picks a woman it could be a very interesting campaign.. I think he'd instantly pick up a pretty decent portion of the Clinton base.. what Republican women are out there?

[Scrum]

I really hope it's Clark.

[7960]

Originally Posted by Scrum

I really hope it's Clark.

I hope it's not clark because I don't want to vote for obama but if he picks clark then I may have to.

[motivez]

Originally Posted by 7960

I hope it's not clark because I don't want to vote for obama but if he picks clark then I may have to.

So you're voting for McCain as of now? Who do you want to see as his VP?

[7960]

Originally Posted by motivez

So you're voting for McCain as of now?

I don't know.

Who do you want to see as his VP?

I'm guessing it's going to be romney.

[Ardentfrost]

Wes Clark is such an obvious choice for Obama, I don't see how he can't pick him. The only thing that would make him more perfect is if he were a woman.

I do wonder, however, if Obama thinks at all about the possibility of assassination. I mean, he would be the first ever black president and generally it's a bad idea to be the first of something. Bush had the right idea in having Cheney as VP... NO ONE wanted that crazy fucker as prez. Maybe, then, Obama will just choose Cheney as VP

[motivez]

There's been a lot of talk about that. I think it's a distinct possibility unfortunately

I think there are a lot of people in this country who aren't ready for someone who's black to be President, and I think there are probably a very small number of them crazy enough to try something...

I honestly can't think of anyone better than Clark for Obama to pick, but everyone I can think of for McCain has problems.

Where are all the McCain supporters with who you guys want to see?

[kombayn]

Democratic VP Top 3:
1.) Obama/Sebelius
2.) Obama/Clark
3.) Obama/Richardson


Republican VP Top 3:
1.) McCain/Crist
2.) McCain/Palin
3.) McCain/Pawlenty


I think Obama needs to choose Kathleen Sebelius, because I'm pretty certain John McCain in any other situation will pick Sarah Palin, though Pawlenty is getting a favorable boost right now. Why? Because both are very well-liked female Governors and they'll appeal greatly to Hillary Clinton's supporters. If Obama picks Sebelius, McCain has to pick Crist in hopes of securing Florida.

If Obama picks a male, it should be Wesley Clark because he's a long-time Clintonite and extremely respected by the Democrats and I think he would put up the best fight at Sarah Palin. Trust me, if Obama goes male, McCain HAS to pick Palin because she can possibly be the only candidate to put this election into play for McCain. Only reason she's not #1 in the GOP Top 3 I have is that I don't think she'd put up a good fight with Sebelius.

At first I was a big advocate for Kathleen Sebelius to be Obama's VP but with her sons "prison rape" game, it's too much of a scandal to conservatives for Obama to combat. So I've been joining the Wesley Clark bandwagon too. He's extremely well-liked with-in his party and he has the foreign policy credentials to smack McCain upside his head. I'm still rooting for Sebelius though and from what I've read McCain is going to choose Pawlenty even though I think he should pick Sarah Palin, a very attractive young governor with a good amount of executive experience and she can attract Hillary's voters.

[Smull]

I'd like to see Hagel or Richardson as Obama's VP but I dont think either is very likely. I was kinda pulling for Webb, but hes a little too socialist for me. I don't know much about Clark, but he seems like a solid choice, I'd be very happy with him.

McCain seems like he will go in one of two directions, pick a VP that shores up his republican base (which is in jeopardy this year) or pick a more centrist VP who would attract independents. Theres very little chance of me voting for McCain right now, but that would dissapear entirely if he picked someone like Huckabee or Romney. Its sad that the most prominent centrist republican being mentioned this election cycle (Hagel) is more likely to be Obama's VP than McCain's.

[DosEquis]

clark and biden have been my guys a long time. From the electability stand point ...feedin the masses so to speak... clark makes the most sense. Though biden has that allegeded "foot in mouth", I think it is more related to 'straight talk'. He don't bullshit...he tells you how he feels about something.

[A_C_E]

Like everyone else, I'm a big Wes Clark fan.

At the same time, I'd LOVE to see Obama pick either Jim Webb or Mark Warner. It would flip Virginia to the Dems for sure, and, IMO, if the left can pick up Virginia the election is in the bag. The "Southern White Guy" thing also brings states like North/South Carolina, Georgia, and maybe even Alabama (with the black vote) into play, forcing McCain to spend money he doesn't have in states that 12 months ago were a lock to go red. Obviously Richardson is a huge positive also, but not going to happen IMO. Biden and Dodd are both part of the US political baggage and won't mesh well with the change theme, so each presents a huge image problem.

On the McCain side, I'm hoping for an out-of-nowhere pick, a longtime supporter and friend of McCain's, Governor Jon Huntsman of Utah. He's a staunch classical Conservative with excellent economic knowledge and fiscal policy (Hell, his fucking name is on the Wharton building down the street). He's also very socially conservative (Mormon), which would help draw the religious right out, as right now it looks like a lot of them just won't vote. Not to mention he's young enough to look like Grandpa McCain's son, which helps with image.

Should be fun to see what happens.

[Stylerod]

Lots of great posts and ideas in here. It's something I just haven't thought much about. I need to do some more reading.

[motivez]

I don't know that Jim Webb is loved enough by VA residents to really secure the state, but Warner is a different story.

Honestly, with as close as the race was in VA and no other Democrat on the horizon to run for Senate to take his place, I think Webb is better off in the Senate that in the VP spot

[kombayn]

It looks like Wes Clark ended up with foot-in-the-mouth syndrome that Joe Biden suffers from. I'm sure this has helped Jim Webb, Bill Richardson and John Edwards chances. Personally after Clark's debacle is to choose John Edwards, though I would like to see Kathleen Sebelius, the GOP would have a field-day with the Abortion issue.

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by kombayn

It looks like Wes Clark ended up with foot-in-the-mouth syndrome that Joe Biden suffers from. I'm sure this has helped Jim Webb, Bill Richardson and John Edwards chances. Personally after Clark's debacle is to choose John Edwards, though I would like to see Kathleen Sebelius, the GOP would have a field-day with the Abortion issue.

John Edwards is too socialist for me. That and Obama needs to pick up someone who will help him against McCain. Nobody who gives a damn about Edwards would ever consider voting for McCain. He needs someone more moderate or someone who brings something to the table like military experience to combat McCain.

[DosEquis]

Jim Webb would be a good choice because he has the military experience but he also served in the Reagan administration. It has an element of that "change" aspect. It would counter McCain's "getting shot down" as apparently that is now a valid resume bullet when applying for president of the united states.

[nbiggershaft]

Obama picking Richardson could definitely make me warm up to him. I'd like to see someone who is pro-advanced education and science industry in his corner.

[lew]

I don't care much for Clark.


I do like Hagel, Webb, Biden, and Richardson.


Even though I won't vote for the ticket at all, I'd be happier with one of those 4 as VP.

[lew]

Originally Posted by A_C_E

Like everyone else, I'm a big Wes Clark fan.

At the same time, I'd LOVE to see Obama pick either Jim Webb or Mark Warner. It would flip Virginia to the Dems for sure, and, IMO, if the left can pick up Virginia the election is in the bag. The "Southern White Guy" thing also brings states like North/South Carolina, Georgia, and maybe even Alabama (with the black vote) into play, forcing McCain to spend money he doesn't have in states that 12 months ago were a lock to go red. Obviously Richardson is a huge positive also, but not going to happen IMO. Biden and Dodd are both part of the US political baggage and won't mesh well with the change theme, so each presents a huge image problem.

On the McCain side, I'm hoping for an out-of-nowhere pick, a longtime supporter and friend of McCain's, Governor Jon Huntsman of Utah. He's a staunch classical Conservative with excellent economic knowledge and fiscal policy (Hell, his fucking name is on the Wharton building down the street). He's also very socially conservative (Mormon), which would help draw the religious right out, as right now it looks like a lot of them just won't vote. Not to mention he's young enough to look like Grandpa McCain's son, which helps with image.

Should be fun to see what happens.

Religious right won't vote for a Mormon.

[lew]

This is why I like Webb


Webb of Deception