Even at 135 dollars a barrel oil is cheaper than...

[6SpeedTA95]

A barrel (42 gallons) of oil costs $135.

A barrel of ________ costs _________

Milk = $147
Tropicana Orange Juice = $226
Bud Light = $302
Louisiana Hot Sauce = $520
Jack Daniels = $3,568
Chanel No.5 Perfume = $102,144
Aquafina = $161 (wal mart price)
Gatorade = $168 (wal mart price)

[7960]

black printer ink is $2,700 per gallon.

there are 42 gallons in a barrel.

printer ink is $113,000 per barrel.

[northhunter]

Gee, guess it's a good thing we don't use any of those things in anywhere near the quantity we use gasoline huh?

[6SpeedTA95]

Originally Posted by 7960

black printer ink is $2,700 per gallon.

there are 42 gallons in a barrel.

printer ink is $113,000 per barrel.

[6SpeedTA95]

Originally Posted by northhunter

Gee, guess it's a good thing we don't use any of those things in anywhere near the quantity we use gasoline huh?

Yeah we use a shit ton of oil.

[motivez]

Yeah, it's still incredibly cheap compared to other liquids, but we don't use any of that other stuff near the quantity that we do oil.. so when oil goes up in price, we certainly feel it more than we do an increase in the price of milk.

I don't drink milk anymore, but when I did I could have stopped drinking it if it became too expensive. I can't really do that with oil

[Donkey®]

Plus the price of those other goods go up because oil prices are up...oil doesn't go up because milk goes up.

[Ardentfrost]

I remember people used to say that about gas... "well, gas is still the cheapest gallon liquid there is."

That's not longer the case. $168 for 42 gallons of $4 gas.

[WickedLou9]

It's a good thing that our entire civilization isn't based on milk or printer ink.

Why don't we compare the price of oil to the price of a barrell of kittens or a barrel of Steven King Novels, or perhaps a barrel of midgets. I'm not really sure what the point of this comparison is.

[Ardentfrost]

Originally Posted by WickedLou9

It's a good thing that our entire civilization isn't based on milk or printer ink.

Why don't we compare the price of oil to the price of a barrell of kittens or a barrel of Steven King Novels, or perhaps a barrel of midgets. I'm not really sure what the point of this comparison is.

They're trying to say "oh, the price isn't THAT bad"

But like I said, they've moved from comparing those things to gas prices to oil prices since oil is always cheaper than gas (you know, gas being process oil and all).

[WickedLou9]

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

They're trying to say "oh, the price isn't THAT bad"

But like I said, they've moved from comparing those things to gas prices to oil prices since oil is always cheaper than gas (you know, gas being process oil and all).

When Americans actually start driving less you know it's a big deal. This year Americans have logged fewer miles than we did last year. People are driving less. That hasn't happened since the late 1970's fuel crisis.

[Ardentfrost]

Originally Posted by WickedLou9

When Americans actually start driving less you know it's a big deal. This year Americans have logged fewer miles than we did last year. People are driving less. That hasn't happened since the late 1970's fuel crisis.

I heard this is the first year since (something like) 1992 that Cars have outsold Trucks in America.

[WickedLou9]

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

I heard this is the first year since (something like) 1992 that Cars have outsold Trucks in America.

Americans are driving less and buying smaller cars? Shit I hope gas prices stay this high forever.

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by WickedLou9

When Americans actually start driving less you know it's a big deal. This year Americans have logged fewer miles than we did last year. People are driving less. That hasn't happened since the late 1970's fuel crisis.

That is why a lot of liberal/environmentalists wanted to raise taxes on gas. They wanted to reduce usage. Looks like they got their wish.

[David Octavius]

Originally Posted by WickedLou9

It's a good thing that our entire civilization isn't based on milk or printer ink.

Why don't we compare the price of oil to the price of a barrell of kittens or a barrel of Steven King Novels, or perhaps a barrel of midgets. I'm not really sure what the point of this comparison is.

It is a silly comparison

[6SpeedTA95]

Originally Posted by motivez

Yeah, it's still incredibly cheap compared to other liquids, but we don't use any of that other stuff near the quantity that we do oil.. so when oil goes up in price, we certainly feel it more than we do an increase in the price of milk.

I don't drink milk anymore, but when I did I could have stopped drinking it if it became too expensive. I can't really do that with oil

Absolutely, but none of that other stuff requires the time/effort etc to make that it takes to make a gallon of oil into a gallon of gasoline...but yeah I agree with you that the quantity we use is drastically different.

[Ardentfrost]

Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95

Absolutely, but none of that other stuff requires the time/effort etc to make that it takes to make a gallon of oil into a gallon of gasoline...but yeah I agree with you that the quantity we use is drastically different.

I dunno man... when thinking about what it takes to get oil in Saudi Arabia to gasoline at my local station, it's chemically arduous but as far as what has to happen and everything, I think milk is more difficult.

With Gas you pull oil from the ground, ship it to refineries, then take the resulting gas and ship it to stations. Costs associated with this are machinery to get the oil from the ground, machinery to do the refining, and a supply chain that can ship it from place to place.

With milk you have to rear, raise, and feed cattle. It is dependent on a completely different supply chain of corn, hay, grass, etc. to be maintained. Plus all the land it takes so the cows can graze as well as all the land to raise the additional food for them. A single cow doesn't provide a lot of milk on its own, even a whole farm of cattle cannot provide enough milk. It takes thousands and thousands and thousands of cows to produce enough milk for us. There is machinery to get the milk from the cows, and then once the milk is pulled from the source, you have in your hands a ticking time bomb. Before the clock ticks to zero (spoilage) it has to be pasteurized, bottled/packaged, and received at a store so consumers can buy it. No reserves can exist for milk.

Chemically, oil goes through a far more rigorous process than milk (milk is really just heated, no real chemical change at all). But refinement is one step in the process to go from under-the-ground oil to in-my-car gas. Overall I would say milk is more of a beast.

And if you want to talk about time and effort from the very beginning, beer and whiskey takes so much time. Beer takes weeks at least, and whiskey can take years.

That is, just comparing processes. Demand is going to affect all the different industries differently. Oil is certainly the most demanded of any liquid listed.

[Smull]

the real question is how much does it cost per barrel as opposed to alternative fuels?

[7960]

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

I dunno man... when thinking about what it takes to get oil in Saudi Arabia to gasoline at my local station, it's chemically arduous but as far as what has to happen and everything, I think milk is more difficult.

With Gas you pull oil from the ground, ship it to refineries, then take the resulting gas and ship it to stations. Costs associated with this are machinery to get the oil from the ground, machinery to do the refining, and a supply chain that can ship it from place to place.

With milk you have to rear, raise, and feed cattle. It is dependent on a completely different supply chain of corn, hay, grass, etc. to be maintained. Plus all the land it takes so the cows can graze as well as all the land to raise the additional food for them. A single cow doesn't provide a lot of milk on its own, even a whole farm of cattle cannot provide enough milk. It takes thousands and thousands and thousands of cows to produce enough milk for us. There is machinery to get the milk from the cows, and then once the milk is pulled from the source, you have in your hands a ticking time bomb. Before the clock ticks to zero (spoilage) it has to be pasteurized, bottled/packaged, and received at a store so consumers can buy it. No reserves can exist for milk.

Chemically, oil goes through a far more rigorous process than milk (milk is really just heated, no real chemical change at all). But refinement is one step in the process to go from under-the-ground oil to in-my-car gas. Overall I would say milk is more of a beast.

The way you have it listed, sure sounds like it is. But that's because of how you have it listed. You could just as easily have said

With milk you feed a bunch of cows and then suck the milk out and heat it and bottle it. But with gas you have to invest in technology to drill miles into the earth, then pump it out of the ground into a holding tank, then to a ship, then send it halfway across the world to be refined. Refining is a multi-step process that requires blah blah blah. And don't forget that much of the oil we're getting that's not in the middle east is coming from off-shore platforms so they have to R&D entire floating (or anchored) cities in some of the harshest environments in the world (the north sea, the gulf of mexico during hurricane season).

So "suck milk from a cow" sounds like less of a beast to me.

[Rouger2]

What the heck are you all doing this comparison stuff is silly or is meant to be.