Originally Posted by WickedLou9 I think banning something simply because it's bad for you is a silly reason. After all if you are going to take that route... you should be first looking to ban the most harmful drug in this country. Ciggarettes. they kill more people than drunk driving ...
09-20-2006, 01:17 PM
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| For those about to rock...  libertarian Atlanta, GA 
| Originally Posted by WickedLou9 Or McDonald's.... 
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09-20-2006, 01:18 PM
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| One American Family at a Time.  Idealist The OC, California
| Originally Posted by WickedLou9 Or Trans Fat....
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09-20-2006, 01:18 PM
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| One American Family at a Time. Idealist The OC, California
| Originally Posted by Ardentfrost HiFive?!
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09-20-2006, 01:19 PM
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| Governments should fear their people  Paleolibertarian
| Originally Posted by WickedLou9
but, but cigs don't cause dem crazy niggers to go all crazy and shit, raping our white women. | ||||
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09-20-2006, 01:20 PM
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| For those about to rock... libertarian Atlanta, GA
| Originally Posted by lew Or...
we can't use cigarettes to kick spics out of the country in the west. God damn Anslinger was a douche | ||||
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09-20-2006, 01:20 PM
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| Dirty Liberal  Democrat South Jersey
| We should mandate 30 minutes of exercise a day. Lethargy leads to poor cardiovascular health. And since heart diseases is the leading killer in this country.. let's start there. | ||||
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09-20-2006, 01:21 PM
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| For those about to rock... libertarian Atlanta, GA
| Originally Posted by WickedLou9 Good point
We can then go to making driving illegal since a lot of people die in car wrecks every year. | ||||
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09-20-2006, 01:21 PM
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| Never, never, never give up  Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by lew Sure, we can go on this forever. Advil can cause liver damage. The side effects of some drugs can cause illness or death. Aspirin can hurt very young children. Combinations of drugs can cause illness or death. Viagra and some heart medicines can cause low blood pressure resulting in death. Too many sleeping pills can kill you.
Should these all be made illegal because of this? NO. Hypocracy still not found! We already see the effects of what alchohol can do. We all probably know someone that has died or been hurt by a drunk driver. Why make it worse? Because you're selfish and want it to be legal so you can enjoy it without worry? That's my guess for most people that want it legal. | ||||
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09-20-2006, 01:22 PM
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| Yeah, that guy.  Progressive Oregon
| Originally Posted by Ardentfrost
Seeing how prohibition worked, I agree that it was futile. At the same time I believe the government should take an active stance in dealing with the issues of addiction in a broad sense. Making alcohol illegal at this point is useless, but nothing stops us from developing better ways of regulating it (such as moving the drinking age down to 16 and moving the driving age up to 18, as a way of combating drunk driving, but that of course could lead to other problems and is another thread entirely). At this point I think, though the war on drugs is a failure, the absolute last thing the government should do is step completely out of the game. Rehabilitation/treatment instead of jail-time? I'm all for that. I am also for federal/state funding to developing and researching the most effective treatment programs and implementing said programs. Does making drugs illegal increase crimes? Sure, it encourages gangs and physical violence as ways of regulating the underground trade. But what is the alternative, if the government is to completely turn its back? Corporations would step in, and the gangs/violence around drug dealers would either disappear completely or at least decrease dramatically. But on the other hand, the drugs themselves would be available to a much wider audience, and we have seen what that has done like the case of alcohol. There is no perfect answer, but I definately think there will always need to be government regulation of certain drugs, for public safety and security. | ||||
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09-20-2006, 01:22 PM
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| Governments should fear their people Paleolibertarian
| Originally Posted by Ardentfrost
ding ding ding Most drug laws were enacted out of fear because of reports that niggers and spics would go crazy while on them and rape white women. | ||||
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09-20-2006, 01:24 PM
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| For those about to rock... libertarian Atlanta, GA
| Originally Posted by Stylerod I've never used an illegal substance in my life, and never plan to. I never smoked any sort of tobacco and didn't start drinking til I was 24, and even still drink rarely and never in excess.
But I want drugs legalized for 3 reasons: personal freedom, economics, and crime. | ||||
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09-20-2006, 01:24 PM
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| Governments should fear their people Paleolibertarian
| Originally Posted by Stylerod
 I won't be doing drugs if they're legal. Most people won't. Buying porn is legal. Cigs are legal. I don't go buy either. Again, just because something is legal doesn't mean millions will rush to do it. | ||||
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09-20-2006, 01:24 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by WickedLou9 We can't do that now can we? The last administration made sure that tobacco companies turn over a shitload of their profits (and how many hundreds of billions in lawsuits?) to help states with their budgets. Take away tobacco money and the states would be in heapum trouble.
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09-20-2006, 01:24 PM
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| Governments should fear their people Paleolibertarian
| Originally Posted by Ardentfrost
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09-20-2006, 01:25 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by lew Good for you. If it was legal, I might have tried them when I was younger. I'm glad it wasn't so I didn't have an easy opportunity to do it.
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09-20-2006, 01:27 PM
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| Governments should fear their people Paleolibertarian
| Originally Posted by Stylerod
So, you've tried every legal thing there is to do? You've gone to the Bunny Ranch and fucked a legal prostitute? | ||||
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09-20-2006, 01:27 PM
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| One American Family at a Time. Idealist The OC, California
| Originally Posted by Ardentfrost I have used, and will use. But making the legal wouldn't make me want to do it more than already done.
It's not like I'm gonna get all excited and rush out to by a g of H. Ooohhhh Because I can!!!!! | ||||
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09-20-2006, 01:28 PM
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| For those about to rock... libertarian Atlanta, GA
| Originally Posted by garbagemanlb Dude, you're so on the verge of coming over to our side of this issue, it's not funny. You see a lot of what we see, but come to a different conclusion. It's not an easy step to take, and I think you're getting close
 What you need to see, though, is that drugs are already available to everyone. Anyone who wants to do illegal drugs do them. It is SO easy to get them. By legalizing them, more people will not use them (not a significant number anyway). | ||||
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09-20-2006, 01:29 PM
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| Yeah, that guy. Progressive Oregon
| Originally Posted by lew Because the argument could be made that the drug being discussed (meth or heroin) could likely lead to the harming of OTHER people's property or body.
If we lived in a perfect world where all people had total self-control or were somehow prevented from interacting with other people, then I would say go ahead, take whatever fucking drug you want and do whatever you want to your body. But in the real world, at some point the government must step in when a drug is deemed so likely to cause public unrest or a danger to society. I personally believe meth and heroin do this. | ||||
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09-20-2006, 01:29 PM
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