Originally Posted by Ardentfrost What you need to see, though, is that drugs are already available to everyone. Anyone who wants to do illegal drugs do them. It is SO easy to get them. By legalizing them, more people will not use them (not a significant number anyway). I disagree. ...
09-20-2006, 01:31 PM
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| Never, never, never give up  Conservative Party High Point, NC 
| Originally Posted by Ardentfrost 
I disagree. Make them legal and the guy who is at a nightclub that would normally just drink with his buddies all the sudden can ask the bartender for some Meth. He's drunk already, what's it going to hurt? Right? It's legal. That is what might have happened with me. And like I said, I'm glad I never tried it. | ||||
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09-20-2006, 01:32 PM
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| One American Family at a Time.  Idealist The OC, California 
| Originally Posted by Stylerod I think that's totally weird that you would buy meth while you were drinking. The two totally end up cancelling eachother out.
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09-20-2006, 01:35 PM
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| Dirty Liberal  Democrat South Jersey
| Originally Posted by Stylerod Why would they sell that stuff in clubs?
Maybe they would outlaw that. They would have to make it so you could only get them at special licensed centers subject to regular inspections. | ||||
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09-20-2006, 01:38 PM
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| Governments should fear their people  Paleolibertarian
| Originally Posted by Stylerod
It has everything to do with it. You're saying that you might have done drugs earlier, for the simple reason that they were legal. This leads me to question what you believe about right and wrong. You clearly only believe that what is right is legal, and what is wrong is illegal. Hence, my questioning about you fucking a legal prostitute. Since it's legal, it must be right. | ||||
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09-20-2006, 01:38 PM
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| One American Family at a Time. Idealist The OC, California
| Originally Posted by WickedLou9
Many who support decriminilization, that's what they want. Kinda like a pharmacy. It's not like we don't have specialized stores now. Or like Guns Stores. Where if you have committed a violent crime, then you don't get to buy them... It's totally possible, the government could totally do this, but for some reason, it's more profitiable for them to scare parents about Gateway drugs, and push legistlation to support their faux War. | ||||
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09-20-2006, 01:38 PM
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| Governments should fear their people Paleolibertarian
| Originally Posted by Stylerod
Then you've never been to a club. Drugs are all over the place. Those that want to take them, already do. Those that don't, don't. | ||||
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09-20-2006, 01:52 PM
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| For those about to rock...  libertarian Atlanta, GA
| Originally Posted by IminWonderland EXACTLY. Get rid of that stupid fucking DARE shit (Nancy Reagan is a nice lady, but what a stupid idea she had) and actually educate children. Educating myself on drugs is what keeps me from doing them, and if I ever changed my mind, my education on drugs would allow me to make good choices relating to them (like, not driving and being safe when using them).
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09-20-2006, 01:55 PM
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| One American Family at a Time. Idealist The OC, California
| Originally Posted by Ardentfrost Yeah, like, why didn't they teach me in DARE, that if I do coke, and then drink alcohol, I just wasted money on both of them?
 I personally, do not want my kids taught drug education from DARE. It's not honest, or truthful, and it's not their place. I'd rather them go to the library and read during that time, because they would probably get more out of it. | ||||
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09-20-2006, 02:04 PM
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| For those about to rock... libertarian Atlanta, GA
| Originally Posted by IminWonderland DARE isn't drug education... DARE says that if you're asked to try a drug to "just say no." That is, don't ask questions, don't learn about them, don't do anything, just say no.
It's a stupid thing to teach because it keeps kids uneducated, so they have no idea what to expect from drugs if/when they try them. Then, I remember that the MILD actual talking about drugs we did was a lot of falsehoods and wild allegations. What a dumb program. | ||||
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09-20-2006, 02:31 PM
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| Common Sense Conservative  Realist
| Originally Posted by Stylerod I've seen some Intervention episodes with alcoholics, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea to bring back prohibition.
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09-20-2006, 02:36 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator  Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by lew
 It's so fucking simple. He seems to think people are dying to do meth, but those pesky laws are stopping them. | ||||
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09-20-2006, 02:39 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by Ardentfrost I have done everything but crack and I haven't done any drugs in ages. In fact I just quit smoking cigarets a month ago. I had no problems getting drugs when I wanted them. Legalization wouldn't make me do drugs.
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09-20-2006, 02:44 PM
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| Ron Paul '08  Libertarian Party Queens, NY
| Originally Posted by IminWonderland Actually it's massively less profitable to keep them illegal, we pour billions into the drug war every year with nill result.
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09-20-2006, 02:47 PM
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| For those about to rock... libertarian Atlanta, GA
| Originally Posted by Nonphixion Less profitable for people who would want to be sellers... not for the pharma industry who has cornered the market on medication.
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09-20-2006, 02:48 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by Nonphixion It's more profitable to the lawmakers to keep it illegal because of the lobbyists.
It's less profitable to us because we pay for the drug war. | ||||
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09-20-2006, 03:16 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by lew That's not what I said at all. Stupid argument.
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09-20-2006, 03:18 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by Ardentfrost Yeah, that works. I've mentioned it before. My old boss gave her 15 year old son condoms for his 15th birthday. He had two kids by the time he was 17 and now SHE is raising them. Yeah, that worked out.
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09-20-2006, 03:18 PM
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| For those about to rock... libertarian Atlanta, GA
| Originally Posted by Stylerod You did say that had they been legal, you would have done them...
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09-20-2006, 03:19 PM
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| For those about to rock... libertarian Atlanta, GA
| Originally Posted by Stylerod Giving a kid condoms is not educating them about sex
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09-20-2006, 03:20 PM
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| Never, never, never give up Conservative Party High Point, NC
| Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent That makes no sense at all. The states could make LOADS of $$$ if they made drugs legal. They could tax it and regulate it more than cigs and alchohol. They just won't do it. It's bad for the community.
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