"The Official Dead Issue List"

[goldenponderbob]

The 08' presidential maration is over. Six months from now President Obama, with his massive democratic support in congress will become the most powerful human in history, with close to 60% control in both houses.

McCain is officially toast; as of now! He has no charisma, no money, no coattails, no engaging issue, no loyal block, and no chance of winning.

Red states, what few are left, are the only ones O needs to reach. Polls that once supposed, with stretched credibility, a neck & neck race, have mostly gone silent. The far right, and the militant feminists have gone into hibernation. The VP guessing game, traditionally used to keep voter interest up at this point in the season, is as irrelevant as Bush's lame duck status.

Some have supposed that forces aligned against our middle east policies are desperate enough to try something horrendous to scare up interest in John.
But, their mischief doesn't fare well when everyone is expecting it.

I would also like to read what LLer's imagine Obama's first six months (the honeymoon, as it used to be called) will have on the great issues: Global Warming, Healthcare, Social Security, Immigration, Border Security, Deficit Spending, Taxes, and, oh-yea, Overseas Forces and thieir Military Adventures.

Can anyone imagine Ameican politics without endless, monotonous jawing over issues nobody expects to be ameliorated, let alone resolved?

Times when one party had that much concentrated power include: Bush's 1st term, Clinton's 1st half-term, Carter's only term, Johnson's extended single term and Kennedy's thousand days.

Were the above five examples great periods, mediocre periods or mostly just sad times.

Just mid-summer musings,
goldenponderbob

P.S. I only wrote the above so I could add this: "the Supreme Court gun thing will have to be added to O's to-do list and fixed. Five jurists got the 2nd amendment backwards, so at least one of them will have to go before the thing can be straightened out. What I mean is that the first thirteen words ot that amendment are the ones we need to keep and pay attention to, not the ones we should throw out. A well regulated militia might have been a very useful clause, but a universal "right to keep and bear" is the worst idea, since turning private property over to developers via "eminent domain".

[Rouger2]

Hope he doesn't get the big head and try to do to much, like shove the entire ultra liberal agenda down everyones throat. Clinton hurt his honeymoon by trying to push the military into taking gays, that was a brick wall he wasn't going to break down. The military is just slightly more conservative than the country. We are basically a christian society and the majority cling to conservatism even many democrats, and he needs to remember that. The country will be watching closely to see if he starts thinking he is a god. That presidential seal thing was a bad sign. I didn't amount to a hill of beans but it got my attention.

[chriswallace112]

It's evident that Obama is going to be the victor... some Southern states may try to hold out because of their ultra-conservative populations... but the voter enthusiasm that Obama has generated will make the democratic party nearly invincible for the next few cycles. McCain has no chance. Let Obama celebrate his victory with the pseudo-presidential seal... the guy's earned it

[C4Casey]

The election is far from over. From now to November is an eternity and alot can happen politically. Hell, these two haven't even debated each other yet.

[ballz2wallz]

Obama has dropped 14% in the polls since only a month ago. Things are turning worse for him by the week.

[SoFlaJDM]

Originally Posted by Nurse Betty

Obama has dropped 14% in the polls since only a month ago. Things are turning worse for him by the week.

you're basing that on a single nationwide poll... that's ok because he's STILL in the lead with that 14% drop.

oh and last time i checked, obama is crushing mccain in the polls that actually count (320-215 if the election were to be held today)- the state by state polls which will be reflected by the electoral college this november

[C4Casey]

As I said, from now till november is an eternity in politics. Alot can happen, and I never trust political polls untill after the debates and conventions, because that is when the canidates are most well known. Yes, if the election was held today, Obama would probably win. But since the elections are held in November, that realy doesn't matter.

[northhunter]

I'm thinking it may have been a bit early to say the election is over, as others said a lot cn happen between now and Nov even a virtual tie given a 3pt margin of error.


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The general election season opens with a neck-and-neck race between Barack Obama and John McCain, with more than one in five voters acknowledging that they might change their minds between now and November.

In the CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll, the first conducted entirely after Obama became the presumptive Democratic nominee, he leads his Republican counterpart 49 percent to 46 percent among registered voters -- a statistical tie, given the question's 3-point margin of error.
McCain and Obama aren't alone. Independent candidate Ralph Nader and Republican-turned-Libertarian Bob Barr are vying with the two major-party candidates for independent voters.
But at this point, it looks unlikely either will play a spoiler role: When pollsters asked about a field of candidates that includes Nader and Barr, the margin between Obama and McCain was virtually unchanged, with the Illinois senator leading 47 percent to 43 percent. Nader pulls in 6 percent and Barr 2.
What would Hillary Clinton bring to a Democratic ticket? Answer: About 3 percentage points.
A hypothetical Obama-Clinton ticket would currently get 52 percent of the vote, compared with 46 percent for a hypothetical McCain-Romney ticket, according to the poll. If Clinton is not on the ticket, 60 percent of her Democratic supporters said they would vote for Obama, 17 percent would vote for McCain, and 22 percent would stay at home in November and not vote for anyone. Watch Obama plan his second presidential term »
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"That's just one estimate of the 'Clinton factor,' " said CNN polling director Keating Holland, "and it may not be an accurate predictor since it piles several hypotheticals on top of each other and asks people to guess their state of mind five months from now.




"Nonetheless, it does indicate that unmotivated Clinton supporters may be a bigger risk to Obama than defections from the Clinton camp to McCain."

The results are based on interviews with 1,035 adult Americans, including 921 registered voters, conducted by telephone Wednesday and Thursday. E

[SoFlaJDM]

isn't the general election based on state by state results? why are we giving a shit about a nationwide poll then?