Ted Nuget on the Supreme court decision

[Ezra Smack]

Our local gun club sent this sent this out to all the members.
No one puts on a good rant better than Nuget, especially when he is right. Many people seem to want celebrate, even though the high court came within ONE vote or "interpreting" away our constitutional rights. The very fact that it even came up for questioning should scare the hell out of you if you believe in any kind of individual liberty.
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A "SUPREME" COURT? I CAN DO BETTER
by Ted Nugent

It is glaringly obvious that a critical lesson in history 101 is due in America, for it appears that not only does a lunatic fringe of anti-freedom Americans dismiss our founding father's clear declaration of independence and succinct enumeration of our God given individual rights, but some Americans have the arrogance and audacity to question whether the right to self-defense is indeed one of these individual rights. Dear God in heaven, who could be this soulless? How about 4 out of the 9 so called "Supreme" justices of the land. God help us all. Who could be so asinine as to believe that a free man has no such right to keep and bear arms for self-defense? What kind of low life scoundrel would know that courageous heroes of the US Military would volunteer over and over again to sacrifice and die for such self-evident truths, then turn around and spit on their graves by discounting the very freedoms that these brave men and women have died to protect? Will these supreme legal scholars also affirm an individual right to chose the religion of our individual choice? Do they authorize our individual freedom of speech? Can you imagine? Them is fighting words my friends, and the line drawn in the sand has never been more outrageous. Recent USA Today and Gallup polls showed a whopping 73% of good Americans know damn well that we are all created equal, and that we each have an individual right to protect our life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. What kind of jackass doesn't know this? Allow the guitar player to translate for the soul-dead among us. Keep-this means the gun is mine and you can't have it.This does not mean I will register it with a government agency. The government works for "we the people", not the other way around, regardless of what Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Hitler, Mao Tse Tung, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein or Barack Hussein Obama or 4 supreme justices may try to tell you. Bear-this means I've got it right here, on me, either in my grasp or damn near. This does not mean locked away in a safe, trigger-locked or stored at the local sporting club. Shall not be infringed-this of course is another way of saying Don't tread on me, for we will not be your willing crime victims, subjects, servants or slaves, so don't even think about it. When the evil King's gangsters came to collect unfair taxes from Americans, we tossed their tea into the drink. When they came to disarm us into helplessness against their old world tyrannical ways, we met them at Concord Bridge and shot them dead till they quit treading on us. Any questions children? I didn't think so. Corrupt men cannot be trusted, hence the right of "the people" to chose the individual church of our choice,to speak our individual ideas and beliefs, to have individual freedom from unwarranted searches and seizures, and ultimately, to exercise our individual right to keep and bear arms so that evildoers cannot do unto us that which we would not do unto them. Get it? I would love to meet the human being who would argue these points with us. We would be looking at a fascist, and of course fascists, by all historical and empirical evidence, must be eliminated. If you value the American Way, if you believe in the words and spirit of the US Constitution and our sacred Bill of Rights, if you know in your heart that you have the right, the duty, the spiritual obligation to protect yourself and your loved ones from evil in all of its forms, then you had best contact each and everyone of your elected officials right away and let them know that you know exactly what the Second Amendment says and stands for. Remind them about the "shall not be infringed" clause. It will not be the fault of the rotten anti-Americans out there who don't believe in individual rights that rape and pillage our Constitution, it will be the fault of those who know better but failed to speak up. Now is the time to fortify America, and we better inform the Supreme Court just who truly is the "Supreme" Court of America-We the people. Individual people with individual, God given rights. The real America. Live free or die.

[kinggovernor]

for being such a militant guy, why didn't he serve in the military

[7960]

typical forum response:

appeal to ridicule
poisoning the well
appeal to authority
ad hominem
argumentum verbosium
appeal to spite
appeal to tradition
appeal to emotion
appeal to fear
confusing cause and effect


But he's right.

[7960]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

for being such a militant guy, why didn't he serve in the military

he didn't want to get his ass blown off.

[Phantom]

Originally Posted by 7960

typical forum response:

appeal to ridicule
poisoning the well
appeal to authority
ad hominem
argumentum verbosium
appeal to spite
appeal to tradition
appeal to emotion
appeal to fear
confusing cause and effect


But he's right.

You forgot "straw man" - the target for his entire rant...

[Scrum]

If this were Baldwin or Clooney making a case for the other side, most on here would respond about not giving a shit what someone thinks just because they are famous.

[TankRizzo]

Originally Posted by Scrum

If this were Baldwin or Clooney making a case for the other side, most on here would respond about not giving a shit what someone thinks just because they are famous.

So in a round about way you went ahead and filled this spot.


This thread is like a trolling 101 checklist

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by TankRizzo

So in a round about way you went ahead and filled this spot.


This thread is like a trolling 101 checklist

I don't actually disagree with him on most of what he said.

Just pointing out a fact.

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by 7960

he didn't want to get his ass blown off.

what about his "spiritual obligation"

[7960]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

what about his "spiritual obligation"

fulfilled on his USO tour.

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by 7960

fulfilled on his USO tour.

that is an easy cover now

[WickedLou9]

The constitution doesn't grant the right to bear arms for self defense. It grants it for the simple fact that a well regulated militia needs arms and a well regulated milita is necesary to the security of a free state. It says nothing of defending your person or property from criminals. Why should it be so obvious that it is the right of all citizens to own guns for the purpose of self defense? He acts like it says that verbatim in the constitution. Rights are not absolute.
Nugent is a wack job. Let's not take some uneducated guitar players rant as having any more meaning than what it is. He is no more a constitutional authority than is Rosie Odonnel.

[7960]

Originally Posted by WickedLou9

The constitution doesn't grant the right to bear arms for self defense.

Right. It grants the right to bear arms. Period.

Nugent is a wack job. Let's not take some uneducated guitar players rant as having any more meaning than what it is. He is no more a constitutional authority than is Rosie Odonnel.

While he has no more constitutional authority than rosie I find it funny that she's vehemently against guns but hired a bodyguard and instructed him to carry a gun when escorting her daughter. The irony of that one was overwhelming.

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

for being such a militant guy, why didn't he serve in the military

Is the only way to serve a country to serve in the military?

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by Nurse Betty

Is the only way to serve a country to serve in the military?

for militant gun owners, you would think they wouldn't have dodged military service.

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

for militant gun owners, you would think they wouldn't have dodged military service.

He dodged it? I always thought he was a rocker and enjoyed his job as it was

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by Nurse Betty

He dodged it? I always thought he was a rocker and enjoyed his job as it was

Military

An interviewer from the British newspaper The Independent questioned Nugent about a 1977 interview in High Times magazine in which Nugent allegedly detailed elaborate steps taken to avoid the Vietnam draft.[4]

"I got 30 days' notice of the physical," Nugent told them. "I ceased cleansing my body. Two weeks before the test I stopped eating food with nutritional value. A week before, I stopped going to the bathroom. I did it in my pants. My pants got crusted up." [4]

Nugent dismissed the veracity of these statements, saying "You've got to realise that these interviewers would arrive with glazed eyes and I would make stories up." He explained that he did not go to Vietnam because he had a 1 year student deferment. When questioned, he admitted that he had "not wanted to get his ass blown off in Vietnam," but made note of a tour he made with the USO in 2004 to Fallujah and Afghanistan as support of his assertion that "I am not a coward." He also said that "Because I failed to serve in Vietnam, I feel an obligation now, to do everything I can to support those defending our freedom. Do I feel guilt and embarrassment? Yes."[4]

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

Military

An interviewer from the British newspaper The Independent questioned Nugent about a 1977 interview in High Times magazine in which Nugent allegedly detailed elaborate steps taken to avoid the Vietnam draft.[4]

"I got 30 days' notice of the physical," Nugent told them. "I ceased cleansing my body. Two weeks before the test I stopped eating food with nutritional value. A week before, I stopped going to the bathroom. I did it in my pants. My pants got crusted up." [4]

Nugent dismissed the veracity of these statements, saying "You've got to realise that these interviewers would arrive with glazed eyes and I would make stories up." He explained that he did not go to Vietnam because he had a 1 year student deferment. When questioned, he admitted that he had "not wanted to get his ass blown off in Vietnam," but made note of a tour he made with the USO in 2004 to Fallujah and Afghanistan as support of his assertion that "I am not a coward." He also said that "Because I failed to serve in Vietnam, I feel an obligation now, to do everything I can to support those defending our freedom. Do I feel guilt and embarrassment? Yes."[4]

Sounds like he was a misled rocker. You people sure are critical of anybody that matures or grows up after 30 yrs. But come on, "I did it in my pants"...I think he made it up.

[kinggovernor]

Originally Posted by Nurse Betty

Sounds like he was a misled rocker. You people sure are critical of anybody that matures or grows up after 30 yrs. But come on, "I did it in my pants"...I think he made it up.

I think it is just hypocritical and chicken hawkish

[ballz2wallz]

That brings a good point up about the last Democratic president and the current Democratic presidential nominee. Neither have had any military experience, and yet they feel they can be an effective Commander in Chief.