Yet another Canadian Anarchist

Angus_Aboot · 07-09-2008, 02:31 AM

I got a message politely asking me to introduce myself. So...umm...I'm Angus. *Crickets*

I was asked to come check the place the site out and I've come to like it, although from what I can gather my presence may not add anything to table as the libertarian/liberal/anarchist side seems fairly full.

I was raised in Canada and the US.
I have a degree in mechanical engineering from Georgia Tech and attended MIT for two semesters.
I'm a scooter enthusiast.
I'm an avid Banjo player.

motivez · 07-09-2008, 07:55 AM

Welcome

Another new face is always a good thing

lew · 07-09-2008, 09:35 AM

anarcho-capitalist or anarcho-communist?

motivez · 07-09-2008, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by lew

anarcho-capitalist or anarcho-communist?

Isn't the latter some type of oxymoron?

motivez · 07-09-2008, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by Angus_Aboot

I got a message politely asking me to introduce myself. So...umm...I'm Angus. *Crickets*

I was asked to come check the place the site out and I've come to like it, although from what I can gather my presence may not add anything to table as the libertarian/liberal/anarchist side seems fairly full.

I was raised in Canada and the US.
I have a degree in mechanical engineering from Georgia Tech and attended MIT for two semesters.
I'm a scooter enthusiast.
I'm an avid Banjo player.

I didn't see this last part, I know we have one other guy going to Georgia Tech right now, and we used to have someone who was doing post doctoral work at MIT

Angus_Aboot · 07-10-2008, 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by lew

anarcho-capitalist or anarcho-communist?

Definitely not anarcho-communist (whatever that is).

However, I reject the term "anarcho-capitalist" on the grounds that the term "capitalist" and it's general usage. Generally, the term "capitalism" hides an assumption that the current system (in America and Canada, respectively) is a free market (I've already seen this within this site). And since the current system is not a free market, but rather one of government favouritism toward business, I cannot identify myself as a "capitalist."

lew · 07-10-2008, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by motivez

Isn't the latter some type of oxymoron?

Not at all. Most of the first anarchists were left-wing communists.

It wasn't really until Rothbard that capitalism was synergized with anarchism effectively. (though there were certainly capitalist American individualists in the 19th century)

Libertaire · 07-10-2008, 12:50 PM

Welcome. I'm new here, myself. So far, so good.

Libertaire · 07-10-2008, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Angus_Aboot

Definitely not anarcho-communist (whatever that is).

However, I reject the term "anarcho-capitalist" on the grounds that the term "capitalist" and it's general usage. Generally, the term "capitalism" hides an assumption that the current system (in America and Canada, respectively) is a free market (I've already seen this within this site). And since the current system is not a free market, but rather one of government favouritism toward business, I cannot identify myself as a "capitalist."

I suppose that's why some prefer "market anarchist". I can understand that, but I think that capitalist is an appropriate term. Capital, in this sense, is wealth, including money and property, owned, used, or accumulated by a person or a company. A shorter definition would be the fruit of one's labor. Capitalism implies ownership by individuals or companies.

jimeigh · 07-10-2008, 11:37 PM

mmm mmmm mmm... capitalism is goooooood good stuff.

jimeigh · 07-10-2008, 11:40 PM

favorite bands/authors plz

Angus_Aboot · 07-11-2008, 01:28 AM

Favorite Bands/Artists:
Slim Cessna's Auto Club
Annihilation Time
Jay Munly
Fucked Up
Roscoe Holcomb
Career Suicide
Th' Legendary Shack Shakers
Government Warning
Those Poor Bastards
Tommy Jarrell
Thats enough...

Favorite Authors:
Murray Rothbard
Walter Block
Thomas E Woods
Lysander Spooner
Robert A. Heinlein
Ayn Rand*

Libertaire · 07-11-2008, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by Angus_Aboot

Favorite Bands/Artists:
Slim Cessna's Auto Club
Annihilation Time
Jay Munly
Fucked Up
Roscoe Holcomb
Career Suicide
Th' Legendary Shack Shakers
Government Warning
Those Poor Bastards
Tommy Jarrell
Thats enough...

Favorite Authors:
Murray Rothbard
Walter Block
Thomas E Woods
Lysander Spooner
Robert A. Heinlein

Great. Now I have to google a bunch of bands that I've never heard of.

Great authors though.

jimeigh · 07-11-2008, 10:40 AM

add Ayn Rand to your list of favorite authors you no-good LLLLLLLLLLLLOOOSSSAR!

jimeigh · 07-11-2008, 10:41 AM

question for the canadian. how big is the band Thebleedingalarm in canada? im not actually into the emo but i know the dudes in it.

kinggovernor · 07-11-2008, 12:39 PM

do you use the government services in Canada?

Rouger2 · 07-11-2008, 01:44 PM

I can't understand people who say they are anarchist doesn't that mean no government at all which would lead to a animal world of the strongest survive,no police force,no army,no highways built. government is an necessary evil for society to survive.

Angus_Aboot · 07-11-2008, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Rouger2

I can't understand people who say they are anarchist doesn't that mean no government at all which would lead to a animal world of the strongest survive,no police force,no army,no highways built. government is an necessary evil for society to survive.

Army, police, roads? Oh my, I never even thought of those.
Ever hear of private security? Private military companies? Roads cannot be built privately?
Nope, still no need for evil.

For jimeigh: The bleedingalarm are more popular out west, they aren't really that big, (or known) over hear on the island.

For Kinggovernor: I avoid as many government services as I can, including the hospitals. Unfortunately, it is impossible to avoid the government completely.

Rouger2 · 07-11-2008, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by Angus_Aboot

Army, police, roads? Oh my, I never even thought of those.
Ever hear of private security? Private military companies? Roads cannot be built privately?
Nope, still no need for evil.

For jimeigh: The bleedingalarm are more popular out west, they aren't really that big, (or known) over hear on the island.

For Kinggovernor: I avoid as many government services as I can, including the hospitals. Unfortunately, it is impossible to avoid the government completely.

You ain't an Anarchist if you say you cannot avoid government completely. Whether you believe this or not if you get rid of the govenment we have now you would just have to replace it with something just like it. We need to do what we can to make this one better. We are lucky because we can do it, we have a democracy, with a bill of rights.

C4Casey · 07-11-2008, 10:11 PM

Army, police, roads? Oh my, I never even thought of those.
Ever hear of private security? Private military companies? Roads cannot be built privately?
Nope, still no need for evil.

Yeah, and then we could have private wars. And those will cause different companies to band together and form private alliances. And these companys can decide on rules and regulations that their employees have to follow in order for the company to be successful. Yup, no governments here.