I don't take Ahmedinejad's "wipe Israel off the map" comment seriously - Page 2

Stylerod · 09-21-2006, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

One takes a map, and a wet towel...wax on, wax off...

Is THAT what he meant! :doh: Stupid me!!!!

SpicyMcVoodoo · 09-21-2006, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

As per your quote. He agrees with the Imam that "Isreal must be wiped off the map". Now, how does one go about doing that?

Missing Countries

Here, take a look at all these countries that no longer exist...I think you'll find that nukes were never used.

JaJae · 09-21-2006, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo

Missing Countries

Here, take a look at all these countries that no longer exist...I think you'll find that nukes were never used.

from your article:

Since many countries merge, split, or just decide to change their name, there are many "missing" countries that no longer exist. This list is far from comprehensive, but it's meant to serve as a guide to some of the most well-known missing countries of today.

Oh ok, so you thought he meant he wanted to merge nations with Israel? Oh or maybe he just meant they should change their name... that's all he meant. It has nothing to do with his extreme hatred for Israel or pro-military efforts he conducted with Hezbollah last month.

Stylerod · 09-21-2006, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo

Missing Countries

Here, take a look at all these countries that no longer exist...I think you'll find that nukes were never used.

Since many countries merge, split, or just decide to change their name, there are many "missing" countries that no longer exist.

So all he wants is for Israel to change their name. Oh hell! And we were all worried for nothing!!!

Stylerod · 09-21-2006, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

from your article:

Oh ok, so you thought he meant he wanted to merge nations with Israel? Oh or maybe he just meant they should change their name... that's all he meant. It has nothing to do with his extreme hatred for Israel or pro-military efforts he conducted with Hezbollah last month.

As a wise man once said "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit." Well, I think Spicy is to the point of trying to baffle us

SpicyMcVoodoo · 09-21-2006, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

from your article:

Oh ok, so you thought he meant he wanted to merge nations with Israel? Oh or maybe he just meant they should change their name... that's all he meant. It has nothing to do with his extreme hatred for Israel or pro-military efforts he conducted with Hezbollah last month.

Yes, I do think he meant the state of Israel would no longer exist in the sense hundreds of other countries no longer exist without nukes...that or he was just talking out of his ass, in either case, his comment shouldn't be taken seriously...what?

You think it's more likely he seriously was announcing his plan to nuke Israel, kill all the Palestinians he's trying to protect and cause every man, woman and child in Iran to die? Now who do you think is being more unrealistic?

SpicyMcVoodoo · 09-21-2006, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

So all he wants is for Israel to change their name. Oh hell! And we were all worried for nothing!!!

No, I think he has more of a USSR to Russian Federation transformation in mind...a fundamental change in government and policy...probably, specifically, an end to apartheid policies, even if the name stays the same.

Stylerod · 09-21-2006, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo

Yes, I do think he meant the state of Israel would no longer exist in the sense hundreds of other countries no longer exist without nukes...that or he was just talking out of his ass, in either case, his comment shouldn't be taken seriously...what?

You think it's more likely he seriously was announcing his plan to nuke Israel, kill all the Palestinians he's trying to protect and cause every man, woman and child in Iran to die? Now who do you think is being more unrealistic?

"The struggle for world domination will be fought entirely between us, between Germans and Jews. All else is facade and illusion. Behind England stands Israel, and behind France, and behind the United States. Even when we have driven the Jew out of Germany, he remains our world enemy."

"The internal expurgation of the Jewish spirit is not possible in any platonic way. For the Jewish spirit as the product of the Jewish person. Unless we expel the Jewish people. Unless we expel the Jewish people soon, they will have judaized our people within a very short time."

These quotes were taken as harmless as well. No one really cared. They were just words, after all. No one thought Hitler would start executing Jews by the millions.

History teaches us things. There is evil in the world. And you can't take evil lying down. All the countries ignored it once, and look what happened. Responsible people and nations try to make sure nothing like that ever happens again.

JaJae · 09-21-2006, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

These quotes were taken as harmless as well. No one really cared. They were just words, after all. No one thought Hitler would start executing Jews by the millions.

History teaches us things. There is evil in the world. And you can't take evil lying down. All the countries ignored it once, and look what happened. Responsible people and nations try to make sure nothing like that ever happens again.

You're buying into the conservative propaganda. Even Ahmedinejad knows the Holocaust never really happened...

Stylerod · 09-21-2006, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

You're buying into the conservative propaganda. Even Ahmedinejad knows the Holocaust never really happened...

Wait, but do we believe him? Seems we believe some of what he says but not other stuff. I'm confused.

SpicyMcVoodoo · 09-21-2006, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

These quotes were taken as harmless as well. No one really cared. They were just words, after all. No one thought Hitler would start executing Jews by the millions.

History teaches us things. There is evil in the world.

Yeah, but unfortunately, if you haven't noticed, everyone compares leaders they don't like to Hitler...
probably in 200 years people will be accusing others of being the next Hitler. As such, your Hitler comparisons mean nothing.

The Gallery of 'Bush = Hitler' Allusions

JaJae · 09-21-2006, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Wait, but do we believe him? Seems we believe some of what he says but not other stuff. I'm confused.

Oh right, that's not what he meant. He meant the Holocaust should just change their name.

SpicyMcVoodoo · 09-21-2006, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Wait, but do we believe him? Seems we believe some of what he says but not other stuff. I'm confused.

No need for confusion...just don't believe stuff that's blatantly bullshit and unrealistic, like nuking Israel, which, btw, he never said...that's just the sensationalist interpretation of it.

Stylerod · 09-21-2006, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo

Yeah, but unfortunately, if you haven't noticed, everyone compares leaders they don't like to Hitler...
probably in 200 years people will be accusing others of being the next Hitler. As such, your Hitler comparisons mean nothing.

The Gallery of 'Bush = Hitler' Allusions

Oh I know. It's used a lot. Dems/libs use it against the Republicans. Republicans use it against other people.

It's just that the Jews were already decimated by an insane leader not too long ago. Now we have another leader making threatening comments towards them. Responsible people like to take those kinds of comments seriously. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

SpicyMcVoodoo · 09-21-2006, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Oh right, that's not what he meant. He meant the Holocaust should just change their name.

Alrighty...I see you guys are incapable of using a little common sense to see what's realistic...so therefore, I will think in kind...

You're right...Ahmedinejad really did announce he plans to nuke Israel, despite the fact he will kill all the Palestinians he's trying to protect and destroy his entire country...crazy, huh? No problem, we must take people at their words...however, I must be intellectually honest and consistent. Therefore, I now have no choice but to think Bush really wants to revamp the crusades and conquor the muslim world. This scares me, and I don't think he meant that because it's totally unrealistic, but shit, you can't go guessing what people mean! Amirite?!

ballz2wallz · 09-21-2006, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo

Yes, I do think he meant the state of Israel would no longer exist in the sense hundreds of other countries no longer exist without nukes...

So he'd rather wipe them off the map the ways all those other countries were wiped off the map...by sending in his country to kill, rape and pillage Israel?

JaJae · 09-21-2006, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo

Alrighty...I see you guys are incapable of using a little common sense to see what's realistic...so therefore, I will think in kind...

You're right...Ahmedinejad really did announce he plans to nuke Israel, despite the fact he will kill all the Palestinians he's trying to protect and destroy his entire country...crazy, huh? No problem, we must take people at their words...however, I must be intellectually honest and consistent. Therefore, I now have no choice but to think Bush really wants to revamp the crusades and conquor the muslim world. This scares me, and I don't think he meant that because it's totally unrealistic, but shit, you can't go guessing what people mean! Amirite?!

Link to Bush wanting to revamp the crusades and conquer the Muslim world?

SpicyMcVoodoo · 09-21-2006, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Link to Bush wanting to revamp the crusades and conquer the Muslim world?

I already posted a quote of Bush saying the war against terror is a "crusade." What? You think crusade doesn't necessarily mean a crusade in the medieval sense? Why because it would be totally unrealistic to think he meant it in that way? Well "wipe off the map" doesn't necessarily mean nukes either, as hundreds of countries have been wiped off the map without nukes, and him nuking Israel would be totally unrealistic. Why the inconsisentcy?

ballz2wallz · 09-21-2006, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo

Well "wipe off the map" doesn't necessarily mean nukes either, as hundreds of countries have been wiped off the map without nukes, and him nuking Israel would be totally unrealistic. Why the inconsisentc