I don't take Ahmedinejad's "wipe Israel off the map" comment seriously - Page 6

Donkey® · 12-13-2006, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

He's never said 'nuke Israel'

Alas I said "imaginary" because YOU and your anti-Iran friends are assigning meaning to his statements that isn't correct.

ballz2wallz · 12-13-2006, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Alas I said "imaginary" because YOU and your anti-Iran friends are assigning meaning to his statements that isn't correct.

That doesn't make any sense...assigning meaning to statements never made?

Like I said, I'm assigning meaning to his actions.

Scrum · 12-13-2006, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

That doesn't make any sense...assigning meaning to statements never made?

Like I said, I'm assigning meaning to his actions.

What action has he taken to wipe Israel off the map?

Donkey® · 12-13-2006, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

That doesn't make any sense...assigning meaning to statements never made?

Like I said, I'm assigning meaning to his actions.

Please list the actions he has taken to attack Israel and wipe them off the map. Please also keep in mind, if his intentions were to "kill all Jews" he would no doubt start with the ones in his country...which by the way is the second largest Jewish population in the Middle East.

ballz2wallz · 12-13-2006, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Please also keep in mind, if his intentions were to "kill all Jews" he would no doubt start with the ones in his country...which by the way is the second largest Jewish population in the Middle East.

That's like saying the slaves lived in harmony with the Americans in the 19th century.

Read about how 'happy' the Jews in Iran really are.

The recent support for Hezbollah in Lebanon is only the tip of the iceburg. Really, is there any need to prove the obvious?

Not to mention, I never suggested he wants to 'kill all Jews'. He just wants to persecute them, and keep them from having their own country. What fun is it to be an evil dictator if there's nobody to hold down?

Donkey® · 12-13-2006, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

That's like saying the slaves lived in harmony with the Americans in the 19th century.

Read about how 'happy' the Jews in Iran really are.

The recent support for Hezbollah in Lebanon is only the tip of the iceburg. Really, is there any need to prove the obvious?

Not to mention, I never suggested he wants to 'kill all Jews'. He just wants to persecute them, and keep them from having their own country. What fun is it to be an evil dictator if there's nobody to hold down?

From your own article

"Today, Iran's Jewish population is the second argest in the Middle East, after Israel. Reports vary as the the condition and treatment of the small, tight-knit community, and the population of Iranian Jews can only be estimated due to the community's isolation from world Jewry."

And by the way, he could care less if Jews have their own country. He is correct in saying that the reasoning behind the creation of Israel was flawed and it shouldn't have happened. Oh, Jews suffered during WWII? Let's put them all on Arab land. Laughable at best.

ballz2wallz · 12-13-2006, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

And by the way, he could care less if Jews have their own country. He is correct in saying that the reasoning behind the creation of Israel was flawed and it shouldn't have happened. Oh, Jews suffered during WWII? Let's put them all on Arab land. Laughable at best.

at 'putting them on Arab land'. They went their themselves. We did not force them to go back to their holy land.

Donkey® · 12-13-2006, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

at 'putting them on Arab land'. They went their themselves. We did not force them to go back to their holy land.

Europe and the rest of the world bent over backwards to give them land and give them a country. If Europe felt so bad they ignored the Jews being herded up and killed, they should give up some of their land...not force Muslims to do it.

ballz2wallz · 12-13-2006, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Europe and the rest of the world bent over backwards to give them land and give them a country. If Europe felt so bad they ignored the Jews being herded up and killed, they should give up some of their land...not force Muslims to do it.

They gave Israel land that was originally theirs

And if you really think about it, Britain DID give them their own land. Weren't the British in control of that territory at the time?

But certainly a topic for another thread.

Donkey® · 12-13-2006, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

They gave Israel land that was originally theirs

But certainly a topic for another thread.

Not really...it's been rehashed 1,000,000 times and there are two clear sides. No need to even talk about it really.

Kytro · 12-13-2006, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

They gave Israel land that was originally theirs

It has belonged to a lot of peoples over time. They have no more legitimate claim than any other group.

It was a poor decision, it caused a lot of conflict (mostly due to intolerance)

ballz2wallz · 12-13-2006, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by Kytro

It has belonged to a lot of peoples over time. They have no more legitimate claim than any other group.

It was a poor decision, it caused a lot of conflict (mostly due to intolerance)

That doesn't change anything. It happened, it's history, and now the world has to work with it. What would the ideal actions be now, take it away from them?