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Old 09-21-2006, 01:48 PM   #1
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Oh look, a government monopoly that doesn't work...

One of the managers in the office here is having all of her mail returned to sender as undeliverable because of a fuck-up at the United States Post Office. She had a forwarding address and it was working fine for a few months, then just randomly stopped. They weren't even delivering mail addressed to her NEW address, they were just kicking back everything.

I've now listened to her try and get this fixed for a good 6 hours over two days (once a week ago, and now today). They have no desire to fix her problem and are being extremely rude and unhelpful. Why? There is no alternative delivery method of regular mail than the monopoly that is the USPS, so they have no reason to actually serve customers well when there is an issue.
 
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Old 09-21-2006, 01:56 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by Publius View Post
There is no alternative delivery method of regular mail than the monopoly that is the USPS, so they have no reason to actually serve customers well when there is an issue.
DHL, FedEx, UPS...
 
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Old 09-21-2006, 02:03 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
DHL, FedEx, UPS...
please tell me how a regular person can force anyone that sends them mail to use those carriers, then I'll agree that they are an alternative for daily, regular mail.
 
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Old 09-21-2006, 02:37 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by Publius View Post
please tell me how a regular person can force anyone that sends them mail to use those carriers, then I'll agree that they are an alternative for daily, regular mail.
You can't force anyone to do anything. But there are options...which debunks the whole monopoly claim.
 
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Old 09-21-2006, 02:41 PM   #5
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The Post Office, as messed up as it is, is one of the few things that is legitimately authorized by the Constitution.
 
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Old 09-21-2006, 03:46 PM   #6
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Old 09-21-2006, 04:17 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
You can't force anyone to do anything. But there are options...which debunks the whole monopoly claim.
No it doesn't. They have a monopoly on regular mail service.
 
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I'm confused on what exactly the problem is. They just decided her address no longer exists?

Was some type of redistricting / line drawing done recently?
 
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Old 09-21-2006, 04:49 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Publius View Post
No it doesn't. They have a monopoly on regular mail service.
Oh, what separates 'regular mail service' from other mail service? Because more people use it?
 
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Old 09-21-2006, 04:55 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
I'm confused on what exactly the problem is. They just decided her address no longer exists?

Was some type of redistricting / line drawing done recently?
Apparently they just randomly fucked up and mixed her two addresses (home & P.O. Box) ... Even things correctly marked were getting kicked back to sender because the post office had her home address listed in the zip code of her P.O. Box.
 
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Old 09-21-2006, 04:55 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
Oh, what separates 'regular mail service' from other mail service? Because more people use it?
Do you send a regular letter via DHL, UPS, Fedex, etc?
 
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Originally Posted by Publius View Post
Do you send a regular letter via DHL, UPS, Fedex, etc?
I have before
 
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Old 09-21-2006, 04:58 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
I have before
you are in the EXTREME minority in that case. I'd say the VAST majority of people do not.
 
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Old 09-21-2006, 06:18 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by Sheana View Post
you didn't tell me about this
i told you about Anita having trouble with her mail.
 
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Originally Posted by Publius View Post
you are in the EXTREME minority in that case. I'd say the VAST majority of people do not.
And whose fault is that?
 
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
And whose fault is that?
Gov't for making it less viable to use an alternate carrier by subsidizing USPS?
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Old 09-21-2006, 07:28 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by Sheana View Post
you didn't tell me about this
the lines of communication are falling apart already
 
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Old 09-22-2006, 11:29 AM   #19
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
DHL, FedEx, UPS...
Nope, it is a federal crime to send 1st class mail through any other means unless it is urgent and their charge is $3 or twice the current postage rate.

http://www.nalc.org/depart/cau/pdf/manuals/pub542.pdf
 
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Nope, it is a federal crime to send 1st class mail through any other means unless it is urgent and their charge is $3 or twice the current postage rate.

http://www.nalc.org/depart/cau/pdf/manuals/pub542.pdf
damn, I didn't know that. That's nuts.
 
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