Originally Posted by kinggovernor just because he is a leader of a nation doesn't mean we have to invite him into our country to bash our leader, that is fucking bullshit We didn't invite him. He was at the UN, which is not our country, and the people of that ...
09-22-2006, 09:51 AM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator  Humanist Chicago Suburbs 
| Originally Posted by kinggovernor We didn't invite him. 
He was at the UN, which is not our country, and the people of that church invited him. Would you rather we banned people from this country that speak badly about its leader? | ||||
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09-22-2006, 10:22 AM
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| Member  libertarian New York City, New York
| I'm impressed that the government allows him into the country. It makes them look a whole lot better for not trying to silence their loudest and most virulent critic who is also a head of state. They don't really need to say or do anything about Chavez. He's got so much publicity that he'll dig his own PR grave eventually once the novelty of what he's doing wears off. Ahmadinejad at least uses some tact. Chavez is just buck wild. | ||||
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09-22-2006, 12:30 PM
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| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz
I'm not seeing the comparison between Chavez and Ahmedinejad...from what I've seen, Ahmedinejad has been very careful with his words and wants serious dialogue; whereas Chavez just name calls and says whatever inflammatory thing comes to mind. | ||||
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09-22-2006, 06:38 PM
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| America Fuck Yea Election Moderator  Republican In Name Only
| Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent he was in a church in harlem, that is not the UN.
I would rather not have people like him in our country | ||||
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09-22-2006, 07:23 PM
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| Banned  Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo 'The Holocaust did not happen' isn't exactly 'choosing his words carefully'.
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09-22-2006, 07:24 PM
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| Common Sense Conservative Realist
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz I'm only talking about their behavior in America. He hasn't said anything like that in America.
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09-22-2006, 07:26 PM
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| One American Family at a Time.  Idealist The OC, California
| Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo But, so what if he did?
We allow moronic things to be said here all the time.... Just look at this message board.....  Thought police, speech police.... Where the hell do I live again? What happened to taking someone's views with a grain of salt because they are wacky? | ||||
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09-22-2006, 07:29 PM
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| Banned Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by IminWonderland American citizens are granted the rights of America. Our enemies should not be allowed to do such things.
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09-22-2006, 07:32 PM
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| One American Family at a Time. Idealist The OC, California
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz
 Yeah, only people who agree with us, and love us should have free speech....totally...  Because...that's why we are spreading Democracy.... | ||||
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09-22-2006, 07:33 PM
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| Banned Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by IminWonderland Not all Americans agree with American policy. You of all people should know that. I really have no idea what you're talking about.
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09-22-2006, 07:42 PM
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| One American Family at a Time. Idealist The OC, California
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz Right, American's don't agree with American policy, some of them, other countries don't agree with it either....Some people agree with Hugo Chavez, and are laughing at him for being a jackass for saying it in front of the UN, what some people say to themselves watching the news...
But, to me, if we are a country that loves Freedom, and we are going to tout this policy of spreading freedom, then we need to learn to relax when another countries leader says something about our country and leaders. I side with the Bush Administration on this one, there is nothing to say to this guy or about this guy. They say "We aren't even going to give it the time of day" which is what Americans should be doing too. Because if you acknowllege it, what is that going to do? So what? So you don't like what he said...SO WHAT? What, are we going to start a war with Venezuala because he says Bush walks like a cowboy?  Shooooooot, I myself have referred to him as a cowboy too, so what? Start a war because I think that too?What he said was so ridiculously funny, it might as well have been a comedian up there...and the fact that he leads, a small, poor, country, what, why get feathers in a fluff about this? I fail to see the purpose. | ||||
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09-22-2006, 07:53 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by kinggovernor He did make comments at the UN in line with what he said at the church.
Originally Posted by kinggovernor Perhaps some kind of loyalty test at the border would suit your needs?
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09-22-2006, 07:54 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz Poeple who are here legally and are not citizens are free to excersize most of those rights as well.
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09-22-2006, 07:59 PM
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| Banned Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent And I think that's the part many have a problem with. Chavez et al. being welcomed here.
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09-22-2006, 08:04 PM
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| One American Family at a Time. Idealist The OC, California
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz You can't invite Frank the Tank to your party, and then get mad because he goes streaking.
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09-22-2006, 08:05 PM
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| Banned Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by IminWonderland If you know he is going to streak, you don't invite him in the first place.
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09-22-2006, 08:08 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz Well the UN is here and they invited him. Then that church asked him to come.
If he threw Bush out of Venezuela you would throw a shit-fit. | ||||
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09-22-2006, 08:09 PM
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| Banned Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You
| Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent If he threw Bush out of Venezuela?!!! As if Bush would even go in the first place?!!!
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09-22-2006, 08:10 PM
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| One American Family at a Time. Idealist The OC, California
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz Well, obviously SOMEONE wanted him there...
So, who cares, he was invited, he got his 15 minutes on the stage.... Get over it.  | ||||
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09-22-2006, 08:14 PM
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| One American Family at a Time. Idealist The OC, California
| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz
Yeah, I mean, we are way too good to go to his parties, I mean, Bush wouldn't show his face there, because he already knows that Hugo was talking shit on him, and like, then if he did go, then what if they saw eachother at the punch bowl, and then it would be all akward. I swear, you make the U.N. sound like High School. | ||||
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