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Old 08-20-2008, 05:04 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
Well, how about launching a war in a country where there are large quantities of both without understanding the community dynamics involved?

Then, after your war started and you toppled the regime, you were left completely unprepared to deal with the consequences of the power vacuum as both factions struggle for dominance, leading to sectarian violence and ethnic cleansing on both sides.

But hey, that could never happen. Right?
Not to mention the nuanced differences that exist between the two groups, if you don't know who you are talking to, you might insult the person and poison the relations.
 
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Old 08-20-2008, 06:03 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
Well, how about launching a war in a country where there are large quantities of both without understanding the community dynamics involved?

Then, after your war started and you toppled the regime, you were left completely unprepared to deal with the consequences of the power vacuum as both factions struggle for dominance, leading to sectarian violence and ethnic cleansing on both sides.

But hey, that could never happen. Right?
You are assuming he would start a war without all the facts first. He wouldn't.

Hey, we knew the Russians weren't great people when we allied with them against Hitler. That little gem cost half of Europe their freedom for 50 years. It's strange how things don't happen like you always think they will. But hindsight is 20/20, right?
 
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Old 08-20-2008, 08:50 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by Stylerod View Post
You are assuming he would start a war without all the facts first. He wouldn't.
We thought the same of Bush, he was supposed to be surrounded by the best and brightest remember?
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Old 08-20-2008, 09:54 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by David Octavius View Post
We thought the same of Bush, he was supposed to be surrounded by the best and brightest remember?
Again, hindsight is 20/20.
 
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Old 08-20-2008, 09:57 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by Stylerod View Post
Again, hindsight is 20/20.

Ummm no, its called not being prepared..not knowing the difference between a Sunni and Shia before going in there to set up a government for them to work together is astonishingly incompetent. If they would of talked with some mid east experts who are not married to the neo-con ideology they would of known easily.
 
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Old 08-21-2008, 09:53 AM   #26
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Originally Posted by David Octavius View Post
Ummm no, its called not being prepared..not knowing the difference between a Sunni and Shia before going in there to set up a government for them to work together is astonishingly incompetent. If they would of talked with some mid east experts who are not married to the neo-con ideology they would of known easily.
You are right. All we need are mid-east experts and all cultural and religious intolerance in that region of the world will magically end. I can't believe Bush didn't think about that.
 
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You are right. All we need are mid-east experts and all cultural and religious intolerance in that region of the world will magically end. I can't believe Bush didn't think about that.


Way to gloss over the premise of my post - your sarcastic comments only proves that Bush had no excuse not to be informed before he committed to war.
 
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Old 08-21-2008, 10:06 AM   #28
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Originally Posted by David Octavius View Post


Way to gloss over the premise of my post - your sarcastic comments only proves that Bush had no excuse not to be informed before he committed to war.
No, I'm sure there was a super easy way to make sure those people get along. Saddam had to murder whole families and tourture anyone that didn't do it his way to make it work, but I'm sure it was really just misscommunication.
 
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