ok, it's 6pm for me...
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| Better Dead than Red Democrat "My friends, we’ve got them just where we want them.” ![]()
| ok, it's 6pm for me | ||||
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| 4 minutes being nice and doing an intro... then it starts "why didnt u do more?" Clinton: 93 talks about conservatives wanted him out of Somalia...OBL had nothing to do with Black hawk down...not involved...it was about Adid, no serious person would disagree points to Clarke...says they almost got bin Laden Clinton authorized them to kill bin Laden He STARTED comprehensive terrorism, first president to do so After Cole he drew up invasion of afghanistan and full scale search for OBL...but the FBI and CIA refused to certify OBL was responsible for Cole before he left office Right-wingers ridicule him for trying, but he tried and they didn't try He left the country with first comprehensive terror strategy, plans to invade afghanistan and richard clarke (whom he regards the THE counter-terrorism expert in America) Fox News asks Clinton people what they don't ask conservatives, don't ask why they didn't do things after Cole when they were in office, don't ask why they fired their best man (Clarke), don't ask a lot of questions about Bush failures In 1996 and since, he got closest that anyone has everyone gotten to killing OBL Entire military was against Afghanistan, CIA and FBI wouldn't give him proper intel, so he left office without dealing with Cole Serious disinformation campaign, he was vigorous, right wingers said he was obsessed and it was all wag the dog, yet now they said he didn't do enough | ||||
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| Better Dead than Red Democrat "My friends, we’ve got them just where we want them.” ![]()
| excellent... i want to see how the usual suspects twist this | ||||
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| About Karl Rove BS: They use security wedge issues, in 2002 they switched around their homeland security bill and then ran on that, made up security issue that wasn't there Dems want to implement 9/11 recommendations, work on energy indepedence, strengthen mission in Afghanistan Dems will win if voters aren't scared WH trying to scare American voters | ||||
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| Better Dead than Red Democrat "My friends, we’ve got them just where we want them.” ![]()
| who was on it. dickie morris and krauthammer? | ||||
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| Panel: Brit Hume (conservative), Fred Barnes (far-right conservative), Maria (From NPR, but she's right-of-center), Juan Williams (moderate) Hume says its about his legacy, and he is defending that Maria confused why Clinton is sensitive, maybe PT911 Fred says Clinton did "a lot" but unusually worried legacy Juan, has a right to attack fox, "wag the dog" WAS all over DC, WJC acted in an aggressive fasion against terror, Bush admins didn't even know who OBL was, ignored Clarke Hume, Clinton didn't have national will behind him on terror, claims first WTC would have been enough for national rally Maria, completely dodges question Juan, press gave WMD pass to Bush (second half of panel to come after commercials) | ||||
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| Their best "panel" i saw was Bill Krisol, Charles Krauthammer, Fred Barnes and Brit Hume 1 Strong Conservative and 3 Ultra-Conservatives It'd be like having Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn, Russ Feingold, and Lincoln Chafee as the "fair and balanced" Panel on MSNBC...ofcourse everyone would call it a joke, but because its Fox News they get a pass Last edited by Thorgrim; 09-24-2006 at 10:58 AM.. | ||||
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| 2nd half of panel: news that iraq is creating more terrorists than pre-911 Fred, says it would be growing despite Iraq, Iraq doesn't mean anything Williams, we're using 1/7th the troops in Afghanistan on resurgent Taliban Iraq generating more terrorists than Palestine is (Which is remarkable if you look back at the 70s, 80s, 90s) Hume, we don't know enough about intelligence report to conclude Doesn't understand why Iraq would inflame muslims Maria, impossible to say what we could have done differently about terror detaines Fred, only thing given up is widespread water torture Maria, Bush won the argument, McCain/Graham lost Williams, President won, torture is allowed, reprehensible that US would take part in that Hume, torture is off the table, that talk is "huey" | ||||
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| In conclusion, what a bunch of friggin handjobs except Williams, I almost forgot why I never watch the panels, its like conservative spin zone with moderate Williams trying to interject 5 seconds of reality and being talked over | ||||
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| Better Dead than Red Democrat "My friends, we’ve got them just where we want them.” ![]()
| hume is also the managing editor | ||||
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| Here we go, fixing to start now... | ||||
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| Fox News must be the devil; those people smell like sulfur. | ||||
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| Here we go... | ||||
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| what the gay | ||||
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| Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM How are the facts skewed? They have Clinton himself on there.
And I don't bitch and moan about the NYT at all; certainly my occasional 'they are biased to the left' is nothing compared to the constant "Fox News is terrible" comments. We even have a Fox News smilie...one where the smilie crushes it. It's getting rather pathetic. If they were really so wrong, you'd think nobody would pay attention to them. Instead you liberals constantly harp on them; they must be doing something right. | ||||
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